Posted on Aug 1, 2017
Will adding new Senior NCO Ranks (E10 & E11) improve the NCO Corps?
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http://www.military.com/daily-news/2017/07/14/army-mulls-creating-new-pay-grades-for-senior-ncos.html
SMA Dailey discusses the pros of having E10 & E11 ranks for nominative CSMs duty positions that are aligned with specific GO level positions. My thoughts are that the Senior Officer rank is where the authoritative power lies and with the general authority power as a the Senior NCO working for that GO, you should have no issues working with peered (by rank only, not position) Senior Noncomms. I see no true value added other than a DD214 and very specialized blue ID card.
SMA Dailey discusses the pros of having E10 & E11 ranks for nominative CSMs duty positions that are aligned with specific GO level positions. My thoughts are that the Senior Officer rank is where the authoritative power lies and with the general authority power as a the Senior NCO working for that GO, you should have no issues working with peered (by rank only, not position) Senior Noncomms. I see no true value added other than a DD214 and very specialized blue ID card.
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We need to focus on empowering SFC and SSG ranks by cutting the fat out of their responsibilities and developing a mentorship program. When I was a SGT, many a SFC told me that they couldn't professionally develop their NCOs because they had no time and too much to do.
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There is a mentorship program per se, it's called Army Career Tracker (ACT) and Army360 (MSAF). However, it is vastly under utilized. Let's see if this new NCOER will make honest brokers of our leaders. There is way too much "liker-ship" which "promote our problems". There is never too much to do when it comes to counseling, coaching and mentoring your subordinates. Never let a NCO tell you that, if they do, then message me, I will or know someone who will be happy to correct that NCO.
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MSG (Join to see) - I've witnessed more than one NCO get snubbed for promotion or cheated out of a better NCOER, because Soldiers didn't respond to that NCO's leadership style rather than on how well that leader knew their job and held subordinates to a standard. So, I agree with your "liker-ship" observation. Too many raters have taken the easy way out by using a the ratee's personality as an excuse to dock them for competency, instead of taking the time to coach/mentor them on stronger leadership approaches.
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Unfortunately that is the way of the best when it comes to evaluations. The new NCOER does not require Senior Raters and Raters to be on the same page (hopefully in the same ball park). I encourage NCOs to be more assertive in gaining their counselings and having specifics listed, it's your career after all. This is where interpersonal tact and high professionalism must prevail. It can become a slippery slope should you piss off the wrong people, but it would take quite the conspiracy for all raters, chain of command and IG to turn against one Soldier. Having said that, give it time, both Raters and Sr. Raters will develop a profile and this will give Commanders and HRC are clearer picture of how they rate. In the end, stay focus, learn everything and never quit.
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NO! Services have to learn how to properly utilize a SrNCO instead of trying to create new Uber-SrNCOs. "We're going to admin ourselves into a higher state of readiness and professionalism". Stupid
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I SUPPORT THE PAY BUMP. Nothing wrong with giving our Senior NCOs a pay increase when they serve in those positions that WILL BETTER SUPPORT THEM INTO RETIREMENT. However I think it should be tied to base pay and not an add on (as mentioned in an earlier post). I don't think we really need to categorize it as E10/E11, instead lets just code it within the system differently
Examples:
Brigade level CSM E9D
Division level CSM E9C
Corps Level CSM E9B
SMA- E9A
Just the thoughts of an E-7
Examples:
Brigade level CSM E9D
Division level CSM E9C
Corps Level CSM E9B
SMA- E9A
Just the thoughts of an E-7
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