Posted on Dec 21, 2013
PO2 Orlando Sims, MPA
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Are they diploma mills or do they provide the same type of quality education as nonprofit university's and colleges with regional accreditation? 
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http://www.takepart.com/video/2014/09/08/student-loan-debt?cmpid=tp-fb

Worth the 16 minutes to watch. SPECIFICALLY around the 11:40 mark.
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I was slow to weigh in because I held a leadership position at a traditional bricks and mortar research university for 15 years before I joined the military, and that gives me a very strong bias against this mushrooming population of for-profit colleges.  The description that SPC Stubbs gives is almost always what I hear too.

What are your goals?  If you just want points for civilian education, and you do not care if you actually get a degree and/or you don't plan to actually use the degree as anything other than a credential, there is probably little distinction.  Understand that you are not really getting a college education.

I caution that this is shortsighted.  I met with quite a few transitioning service members who were very disappointed to find that there is no academic credit for "life experience" or that they cannot count their 15X AIT toward a degree in accounting, even if some other for-profit said they would accept it.  Moreover, credit "earned" at many of these for-profit schools will not transfer and you cannot use their degrees toward starting a Master's program at a traditional non-profit.  In short, you may start out thinking, "I just want the promotion points," but if you change your mind, you won't have as many options.

I never attended a for profit school, but when one of my Soldier's had a problem with a course while we were down range I accompanied him to the school's office on Camp Liberty.  While, yes, I wanted to eat at the good DFAC, I also knew I could speak the academic lingo and get the situation straightened out.  For months the "school" harassed me to agree to teach for them.  I kept trying to explain that we've got this war going on and I had a couple things on my mind.  They kept trying to reassure me how easy it would be and what little time I would really have to put into it.  Ridiculous.  

I would stay away.  There are enough fully recognized, properly accredited, online programs given by traditional non-profit schools, that you can get a degree from a school with an established reputation and strong alumni program, etc.

I absolutely do not mean to offend people who have chosen to get a degree from a for-profit program and who feel they were well served.  If that is your experience, good on you.
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SGT Bn C&E Ncoic
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Any good colleges that are not for profit, that offer online degrees that you recommend, ma'am?
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I'm sorry that I am just seeing this. I was TDY then on a family vacation. There are a ton of schools that have strong reputations and online programs. PM me with what you are looking for and I'm absolutely at your service. Ask me anything!
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MAJ Multifunctional Logistician
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CPT (Join to see) I know this is an old posting but I just came across it so I thought I would ask you a question or two. Since you have worked in the traditional brick and mortar type school, what are your thoughts of online programs from traditional non-profit schools? Are they looked upon differently than a normal classroom degree? Based on your experience, specifically, how marketable is a online graduate degree from a non-profit compared to a traditional graduate degree compared to an online for-profit graduate degree?

Thanks for the reply.
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SPC Rachel Stubbs
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I have had a professor that once taught at a for profit college. He said that it was easy money and that the college its self really did not care about the education that they were teaching, as long as the students were paying their tuition that it was all they cared about. Now I have never been to a for profit college but I know in my state the credits for the for profit colleges do not transfer as well as traditional not for profit college credits.
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