Posted on Apr 26, 2017
What's the difference between ING and IRR? Will I lose benefits, time in service, etc.?
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Will my contract freeze or continue?
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If you go ING, your contract freezes. You are not considered part of the "active reserve." Once whatever circumstance that caused you to go into the ING is over, you will still have as much service obligation left as when you entered the ING. You cannot "complete" your enlistment in the ING.
If you go IRR, your contract does NOT freeze. You ARE considered part of the "active reserve" (Yes, I know what the I stands for, you are still lumped into to "active reserve" for this purpose). Your clock still runs and you can complete your enlistment in the IRR, and either re-up or separate.
One detail that is often overlooked, if you chose to go IRR (and the command approves), you will technically be separated from your state NG and become part of the USAR. I know that can matter to some people. State NG leadership will often prefer ING over IRR.
If you go IRR, your contract does NOT freeze. You ARE considered part of the "active reserve" (Yes, I know what the I stands for, you are still lumped into to "active reserve" for this purpose). Your clock still runs and you can complete your enlistment in the IRR, and either re-up or separate.
One detail that is often overlooked, if you chose to go IRR (and the command approves), you will technically be separated from your state NG and become part of the USAR. I know that can matter to some people. State NG leadership will often prefer ING over IRR.
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COL Vincent Stoneking - Sir, I just looked over NVR 614-1.1 and didn't see where ING counts towards my contract time. I'd like to point this out to my readiness NCO. Can you post the link where you read it?
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COL Vincent Stoneking
SPC (Join to see) - NGR 614-1 Para 2-1(a)(8). Was very surprised, as this is the opposite of what I've heard my whole career...
http://www.ngbpdc.ngb.army.mil/pubs/614/ngr614_1.pdf
http://www.ngbpdc.ngb.army.mil/pubs/614/ngr614_1.pdf
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COL Vincent Stoneking - is this what you were referring to, sir?
"As an alternative to serving in the Individual Ready Reserve (IRR) of the United States Army Reserve
(USAR) in order to complete the second portion (two, four, or five years) of the 6x2, 4x4, or 3x5 enlistment option,
or of another residual commitment to serve in the Ready Reserve of the Army, after an initial period of service on
active status with ARNG. Soldiers must execute a DA Form 4836 for the remaining period."
"As an alternative to serving in the Individual Ready Reserve (IRR) of the United States Army Reserve
(USAR) in order to complete the second portion (two, four, or five years) of the 6x2, 4x4, or 3x5 enlistment option,
or of another residual commitment to serve in the Ready Reserve of the Army, after an initial period of service on
active status with ARNG. Soldiers must execute a DA Form 4836 for the remaining period."
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My understanding is ING is National Guard only and IRR is reserves only so dependent upon which you are is what you would be put into. I agree though that you should just finish out your time.
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I've been offered a contracting job overseas and do not plan on reenlisting and the guard knows that. I submitted a 368 over a year ago and was recently offered this job.
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SPC (Join to see) - You would be in the ING then. You don't get a choice of the two from what I understand. You can also still be on the books while contracting. Just try to turn in all your equipment to supply before you leave.
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I was told I would turn in gear. Which is good with me. Don't need to get charged for anything while I'm gone. I just want to know what happens with my contract while I'm in ING?
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The contract will continue, you just won't accrue service points. If you go into ING with seven years, then if you were to ever come back from ING, you would still have seven years. I'm currently in that status and will be riding out my time.
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My ets is 2020. I'm going to middle East to work but don't want to have to pick up my remaining time when I return. I'd like my time to continue.
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SGT Chris Stephens
The contract will continue in ING. Just when it comes to TIG and TIS, those numbers won't accrue if you go back in. But if you're not going back in, then there are no worries there. If you google ING, there is a manual on it. It will answer all of your questions.
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