Posted on Sep 21, 2014
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I am not saying that having a professional image or wearing a uniform properly is bad thing. My question rhetorically, is just because someone has boots that look like mirrors and a perfectly pressed uniform really make them good leaders?

I believe the answer is no it does not. There is pride and there is setting the example. But these are only a few of the traits that we expect good leaders to have. Big picture we want well rounded people in leadership positions, not just "toy soldiers," that look the part.

In history if you look at photos of General's MacArthur and Patton as well as Adm Nimitz, they look like they would barely pass an open ranks inspection, with their wrinkled uniforms and floppy head gear, sans Patton since he always wore a helmet of course. At the same time they were some of the best leaders we will ever have seen in our history.

To reiterate I believe that we should set a professional image. I have seen in my career some individuals that were spit and polish and that's about it. When it came to dealing with people lower rank or their piers the alienated everyone. No one liked them and wanted to see them fail. At the same time I have known people that wore the uniform professionally but were concerned with what I feel are more important in the other tenants of being a professional leader.

I have grown up with the concept that Officers wear fake leather for a reason. We have other more important issues to deal with like managing our programs and leading our people.

Not attacking those who are spit and polish. Just wanted to see other peoples thoughts are on it. I imagine growing Air Force culture may be different in mindset to other services.
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Sir, not any one given thing equates to good leadership. However, there are numerous indicators across a broad spectrum that indicate good leadership. The "spit and polish" that you describe, to me, is more of an indicator of discipline and pride in the uniform, and less of leadership indicator..
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SSG Jim Handy
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I have never believed that spit and polish equated to good leadership. Spit and polish relate more to the discipline and pride part of the equation than it does to leadership. I have worked with some people who always wore spit polished boots and starched fatigues with high and tight haircuts, and they couldn't lead a horse to water. The two best battery commanders I had during my time were artillery officers, and they were also aviators. They didn't wear spit shined boots, but their boots were polished according to regulation, they didn't where starched fatigues, but their uniforms were clean pressed according to regulation. They didn't have high an tight haircuts, but their hair was within regulation. Another thing they both had in common were that they were great leaders of men. The men they led respected and trusted them, and they always commanded professional and very competent units, and THAT WAS THEIR JOB!
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SFC William Swartz Jr
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While it may indicate someone that cares to look the "part", if their actions do not back it up, then they are just "board pretty".
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