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It's no secret that any job you have can require you to work long hours, sometimes even through lunch. Today, while working on scheduling a working session to test some things here at work, I was trying to get a conference room with VTC gear and the only time left for most of the rooms was between 11:30 and 1:30, aka AEO Lunch time.
Does our prior/currently lives in the military teach us to deal with missing a meal?
Does our prior/currently lives in the military teach us to deal with missing a meal?
Posted 8 y ago
Responses: 26
The military is a terrible place to learn how to manage the time of employees. That's because they don't actually pay for their employees time, and overtime, and their employees (ie soldiers) dont generate revenue for the "company" so to speak. Aand there are no legal labor requirements for hourly employees like a mandated lunch break and breaks during the day.
So that is why the military is famous for the hurry up and wait management style. Believe me, if those soldiers were paid extra for hours after 8 per day, there is no way you would have dozens or hundreds of soldiers showing up hours early just to make sure no one is late. Or sitting around at 1700 waiting to get he word. And there wouldn't be endless meetings consuming huge blocks of time if it meant that no products or sales were being made during those meetings.
After I retired I ran a software company as its COO for 5 years. Then later I went back to work at USSOCOM HQs a civilian. The time wasting management style of the military was shocking after being in a profit driven company. You would have 50 senior officers tied up in a three hour meeting just so each could brief their 3 minutes worth of stuff, and sit there the rest of the time doing little just in case something in their area came up. Collosall waste of talent and time.
Working through lunch is in most cases simply a sign of poor time managemet. It ahould be viewed as a deficiency to fix, not something to be praised as "dedication". Same with working late. So IMO the military teaches very poor time management and covers up for a lack of plannng and preparation by being able to cause soldiers to work late at no extra costs.
And to get back to the example in the original post about the conference room, why do you suppose the room is only available at lunchtime but booked all the other times? It's because those organizations planned ahead to schedule the resources they needed without having to screw their employees and expect them to skip aa meal to cover up poor planning.
So that is why the military is famous for the hurry up and wait management style. Believe me, if those soldiers were paid extra for hours after 8 per day, there is no way you would have dozens or hundreds of soldiers showing up hours early just to make sure no one is late. Or sitting around at 1700 waiting to get he word. And there wouldn't be endless meetings consuming huge blocks of time if it meant that no products or sales were being made during those meetings.
After I retired I ran a software company as its COO for 5 years. Then later I went back to work at USSOCOM HQs a civilian. The time wasting management style of the military was shocking after being in a profit driven company. You would have 50 senior officers tied up in a three hour meeting just so each could brief their 3 minutes worth of stuff, and sit there the rest of the time doing little just in case something in their area came up. Collosall waste of talent and time.
Working through lunch is in most cases simply a sign of poor time managemet. It ahould be viewed as a deficiency to fix, not something to be praised as "dedication". Same with working late. So IMO the military teaches very poor time management and covers up for a lack of plannng and preparation by being able to cause soldiers to work late at no extra costs.
And to get back to the example in the original post about the conference room, why do you suppose the room is only available at lunchtime but booked all the other times? It's because those organizations planned ahead to schedule the resources they needed without having to screw their employees and expect them to skip aa meal to cover up poor planning.
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When I'm on Army time, I'll eat on Army time; which means sometimes one must be flexible. In my civilian roll, my boss can suck it when it comes to my breaks and my lunch (not that my boss expects us to work through our breaks).
Sure its important to get things done, but in the end, all my efforts--no matter how much I would have done--aren't going to build monuments to the glory of my work ethic any more than it will build monuments to the people for whom I work. Just remember that 10 minutes after you retire/quit/get fired, no one will even remember your contributions. So I have no intention of looking back at my life and thinking "I did all this work, and the fruits of my labors expired so long ago, that no one but me remembers how I was the hardest working little cog in the workplace." So why give them extra at no cost?
Sure its important to get things done, but in the end, all my efforts--no matter how much I would have done--aren't going to build monuments to the glory of my work ethic any more than it will build monuments to the people for whom I work. Just remember that 10 minutes after you retire/quit/get fired, no one will even remember your contributions. So I have no intention of looking back at my life and thinking "I did all this work, and the fruits of my labors expired so long ago, that no one but me remembers how I was the hardest working little cog in the workplace." So why give them extra at no cost?
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Same Sergeant. My Civilian job I take my breaks and I enjoy them, NG I end up eating while working or eat quickly to get back to work. Though when you can leave before 1700 because you completed your work that's a nice thing too.
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Sometimes working through lunch is unavoidable, whether that be due to deployment, training, VTC/conference calls with multiple time zones, or just something really hot that needs to be completed, but for the most part I make it a habit of getting away during lunch, if not to eat then to get some exercise or fresh air or just recharge. When I have been in command I made it an unofficial policy that all my Soldiers stopped working and left...just get away from work for an hour or so. Like I said initially, sometimes this is impossible, but for the most part there is no reason to work through lunch.
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I'm sure your Soldiers appreciate it Sir, I know my peers do when it happens. You're right though, some days you have to push through and keep moving.
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