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I have been in for 11 years and my biggest problem has been maintaining my PFA standards, Much of it is my fault I accept that.
I also believe that it is also the way program is written. I have heard that more regulations may take affect I.E random BCA's and mandatory FEP for waistlines 40" and over. I feel this is the navy's secret ERB process in slimming down the force (no pun intended)
Just curious on how anyone else feels.
I also believe that it is also the way program is written. I have heard that more regulations may take affect I.E random BCA's and mandatory FEP for waistlines 40" and over. I feel this is the navy's secret ERB process in slimming down the force (no pun intended)
Just curious on how anyone else feels.
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Random BCA heaven forbid you maintain a standard at all times and not just after you get your notice that the PFA is coming
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That's a pretty easy statement for a guy with a pelican neck to make. By the Navy's imprecise methods, I could have a 42 inch waist if I had your 20 inch neck. That's not fitness, it's proportional geometry, nothing more.
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SSgt Gregory Guina
LT (Join to see) While I do agree that the taping method sucks, is inaccurate, and needs to be changed it is stil the standard that we must uphold.
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PO1 (Join to see) I think we were doing good with where the PFA program was. Some of it is out of control, there are times that is needs to be objective. Why are we kicking out Sailors that look fine in uniform, have 2% body fat, are very much obviously in shape, but due to muscle mass and body composition they are overweight and also fail "rope and choke". I do not see the need for "rope and choke" on every Sailor.
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PO2 Michelle Bova
I was discharged bouncing back from PRT past failures. I was at the limit but ended up with Walking Pneumonia right before the PFA. I was in Safety Standown and had a asthma attack. I had to be taken to the hospital via ambulance. They took my mock PFA as my final score and gave me a failure when I should have been waived from the PFA that season. I was only 2% over on body fat but weighed in just one lb under. I failed the swim because that was when I started coming down with Pneumonia. I was discharged 3 months later. However, that wasn't the most upsetting thing to me. I had never in my 11 years been written up on misconduct. Yet they allowed 2 individuals in my command who both had DUI's stay in the Navy. It made me wonder why...shameful!
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PO3 Angel Flores
i fall into the same category, late 95 i was discharged for failing the "rope and choke". although i passed the PRT with flying colors, was a 4.0 sailor, looked great in uniform, never ever failed an actual PRT, just passed the PO2 exam tier 2, they still let me go. i tried getting my local congressman involved and the navy's response was that only PO2 and above would get any help. now how many people want to join the navy and be a submariner, not many, but they let this on go.
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PO1 Dameon Barber
All I am going to say about that is I was grandfathered in on PRT and when it came time for me to retire the tried to kick me out but as you know I am retired now Thank God cause if I left it up to the Navy I would have gave them 20 yrs for nothing all because of these PRT standards this needs to stop we are losing so many good sailors.
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PO1 (Join to see)
I agree I don't understand why you need to be able to X amount of push ups and X amount of sit ups and run a 1.5 miles to be considered in standards......I mean what does that prove any way, when push comes to shove if they are needed to fight a war everyone can shoot a gun and take a bullet or whatever the case maybe.
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I'm all for tighter restraints on physical fitness. I do agree that it should be an actual rate not collateral and they should utilize a more accurate way to conduct BCA's. (I am a CFL) The bodpod is a great way, our command has one and it def keeps people in check. But, coming from the medical (IDC) aspect and having to deal with problems that are generally 90% from being over weight, I have no sympathy and I am 100% honest with my Marines and Sailors. If you are fat I will flat out tell you are, but I will also offer sound advise and help you build a plan to get back into a healthy lifestyle.
Military medicine is the largest budget and costing the tax payers so much money on people who need all types of medication, labs, imaging, and rehab all from being over weight. Why should I have to pay for somebody else who is just to lazy to work out and put down the candy bars, soda, fast food, ect ect. Its called discipline and self control, sh*t how about pride in yourself. How are we suppose to represent the most elite Naval fighting force if we can't fit through a damn hatch in a war ship.
It's always the ones who struggle with the standards who whine and complain, looking for loop holes in the system, always at my door for a LD Chit to get out of PT. I dont care how good you are at your job. If you are not in the standards I can find somebody who is and I am pretty sure the Navy can train them to do that job.
Honor, Courage, and Commitment! We all stood on those footprints and said the Sailor's Creed, how can you serve your country's Navy combat team if your on a Limited Duty board broken, over weight, on 15 different medications? All your doing is costing the Navy money and wasting the Tax Payers dollars, they should be charged with destruction of government property and fraud waste and abuse of the tax payers $.
That is all!
Military medicine is the largest budget and costing the tax payers so much money on people who need all types of medication, labs, imaging, and rehab all from being over weight. Why should I have to pay for somebody else who is just to lazy to work out and put down the candy bars, soda, fast food, ect ect. Its called discipline and self control, sh*t how about pride in yourself. How are we suppose to represent the most elite Naval fighting force if we can't fit through a damn hatch in a war ship.
It's always the ones who struggle with the standards who whine and complain, looking for loop holes in the system, always at my door for a LD Chit to get out of PT. I dont care how good you are at your job. If you are not in the standards I can find somebody who is and I am pretty sure the Navy can train them to do that job.
Honor, Courage, and Commitment! We all stood on those footprints and said the Sailor's Creed, how can you serve your country's Navy combat team if your on a Limited Duty board broken, over weight, on 15 different medications? All your doing is costing the Navy money and wasting the Tax Payers dollars, they should be charged with destruction of government property and fraud waste and abuse of the tax payers $.
That is all!
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I dont know what all the fuss is about. Im 6'0" 262 lbs. Acording to the instruction im "supposed" to be 201. Now lets do a little math. Acording to rope and choke im at 20% but in the body pod mentioned above i was calculated at 16% so just for sake of argument lets say im 18%. So 18% of 260lbs is roundabout 45lbs so even if i went down and lost the 18% id be unhealthy and still "overweight". Now i agree that the rope and choke system could use a overhaul but if your doing what your supposed to or atleast doing your best then there are ways around the "problem" that is the PT. I agree witht the coment above god forbid you have to go run away from McDs every once in a while. You "sailors" are pathetic.
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