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If you are a pilot then obviously you needed Base Operations, Flight Plans and 175-1 Wx Briefings as well as Control Tower operations? Do you think the military is as good as their civilian counterparts when it comes to NOTAMS, Flight Plans, Weather and efficiency?
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DUSTOFF is US Army acronym for Dedicated Unhesitating Service To Our Fighting Forces . . . . . .

Per US Army Vietnam Huey DUSTOFF Pilots-- We don't need no stinking Command Authorization, Base Operations, Weather Briefings, Control Tower Operations, NOTAMS, Flight Plans, Weather, or Efficiency . . . But, it wouldn't hurt to occasionally check with Steel Rain and Rolling Thunder to make sure we don't accidentally fly through our own active ordinance delivery corridors . . . We launch on alert . . . pickup coordinates etc in the air . . . and take the word of the grunts on the ground as to whether the LZ is hot or not . . . so the LZ IS ALWAYS OFFICIALLY SECURE!!!

I understand things have changed somewhat in the updated modern US Department of Defense.

Warmest Regards, Sandy

p.s. I have flown as pilot in command and copilot in numerous fixed and rotary wing aircraft . . .

http://www.legion.org/magazine/216261/decline-dustoff
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1LT Sandy Annala - The UH-1 Huey Pilots were the best in my opinion. Just real down to earth and respectful. For the most part, all pilots whether C-130, 141, C-9 or whatever most crews were pretty cool. Too dangerous of business not to know what is going around you. Especially things like severe icing, MDT-SVR Turbc and Supercells.
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LTC Dr Richard Wasserman, LTC (R)
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I was lucky enough to have "Stick time" in both an OH-58 and UH-1.
This was when I was a UH-1 Crew Chief with the Washington Army National Guard. It was the most fun I had as an enlisted guy.
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CMDCM Gene Treants
CMDCM Gene Treants
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After reading, "The Decline of Dustoff," once again Clausewitz has been proven accurate. Those who do not study history are domed to repeat it, or words to the effect. As MG Brady pointed out, Maj Keyl is probably spinning in his grave as Dustoff is uninvented in the name of "efficiency."
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Received an incentive ride in a F-16D in 2008. It was the most exciting thing I could imagine. Best incentive for hard work and dedication--for this Airmen. The incentive program has been curtailed due to sequestration, which in my opinion is another program that kept the force strong. Flying the jet I help to maintain/support everyday was the best experience. After the flight, my wife said, "You can die happy now!"
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I flew the H-46 simulator for about 30 seconds before the instructor induced a dual engine flame out and sheared driveshaft, does that count? lol
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LTC Dr Richard Wasserman, LTC (R)
LTC Dr Richard Wasserman, LTC (R)
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It counts if you walked away from the simulator and didn't puke!
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No puking here! Other than from heavy drinking, the military failed to make me vomit.
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I had a chance to become an Air Traffic Controller and you had to experience shall I say, the 'altitude chamber'. When weather came along, I jumped so fast it would make your eyes roll in your head. LTC Dr Richard Wasserman, LTC (R)
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It is basically individually tailored, as some folks are very good at it and some are not. As an instructor pilot, I have seen folks show up for a check ride with nothing more than their helmet and others with a map, NOTAMS, weather and the whole she-bang! The standard is that one prepares with all resources and references they need to conduct a flight, however, Army Regulations to some seem to fill gaps in FAA stuff, so most think they do not need to comply and be FAA pilots.

There are protected training areas and routes for military aircraft fixed or rotary and we tend to use those so compliance with all the other "stuff" isn't always necessary. I do think the military has a very robust professionalism to it, however at times we tend to violate airspace due to a lack of reading or complying with NOTAMS.
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