Posted on Nov 26, 2016
How important is War College for promotion to Colonel?
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I understand it's is a positive discriminator, but does the board perceive it as "must have"? Hopefully, a Sr. Leader with O6 board experience can weigh in.
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The promotion board instructions change each year, but the standard is usually you must be at least ENROLLED the War College to be considered competitive for promotion to colonel. The board is instructed as to what the Army needs. Although excellent performance as a LTC will sometimes results in a promotion to Colonel without AWC, the active duty promotion rate to Colonel was only 41% in 2015. That's 41% of the officers who were eligible, a smaller group than the total number of the LTCs. Although it is possible to be promoted without AWC, it is less and less likely.
I would always turn down LTCs who were seeking an MRD extension who had not applied to the War College, explaining to them that when they decided not to apply they had purposefully decided that their career would end at Lieutenant Colonel and 28 years.
I would always turn down LTCs who were seeking an MRD extension who had not applied to the War College, explaining to them that when they decided not to apply they had purposefully decided that their career would end at Lieutenant Colonel and 28 years.
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There is an old saying that you need EITHER War College or Battalion Command to make O-6 and I have found this generally to be true. I have had a few friends make it without either, but they were very, very good and almost certainly had top block OERs. I would dare to say that most are promoted to Colonel BEFORE they have completed War College. That was certainly true in my case. So to your answer, no, it is not essential - but it helps!
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BG (Join to see) - Sir, any thoughts on how much of a descriminator being a JQO is for the GO board? I'm getting looked at this year for COL and I know the next step is reviewed pretty quickly afterwards. V/R.
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Col (Join to see)
As COL billets in the Joint world are becoming more scarce (particularly for the Corps) being a JQO earlier in the career will help (or, it sure won't hurt).
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Col (Join to see)
I would concur with the BG, and would add that a Top Level School (TLS) equivalent would be also be a route. For me I was not selected for ILS or TLS but instead was chosen for a Marine Corps Fellowship. For us the same board selects both, so are equally if not more competitive.
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BG (Join to see)
COL (Join to see) - Being a JQO is required for an AC GO, but not for an RC GO since we don't have any permanent billets on a Joint Staff. However (there is always a however), being JQO is a differentiator and you want as much as possible on your ORB when going for GO. I would go so far as to point out your JQO or progress to achieve that in your letter to the board.
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In the AF, we do first cut by making three piles, and lack of PME is almost always a self-eliminator. The Army may prioritize differently, but when you have an optional task like AWC that some choose to do and some don't, all other things being about equal, I choose the man or woman who decided to grin and bear it and complete the course. It is one of the few objective criteria, other than command, and if you haven't deployed every year since you became eligible for AWC, the board may start right off by putting you in the gray pile.
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CH (COL) (Join to see)
Concur with Comment: Specialty Branches can get promoted without it but you have to have some pretty stellar experience.
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Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen
Agree 100%. Not sure how things are now, but in my days it was an unspoken requirement to make even LTC. As you say PME is a major player and when all your competition has completed War College, the handwriting is pretty much on the wall if you haven't.
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Lt Col Todd Griffin
I retired in 2015---Served as an administrative assistant on a line of the Air Force Reserve 0-6 Board in Denver---From my experience you were basically dead without it.
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