Posted on Oct 28, 2016
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I have heard this saying a few times. What are your thoughts?


UPDATE:
Lots of great responses on here, I'm glad that I was able to get a lot of honest answers. When I say political gain, what I mean is that we are starting war for profits and/or resources. Does anyone here believe that it is wrong to invade a country to take precious resources, and not to establish a democracy or stop wrongful actions performed by another government? By the way, none of these questions I'm asking are biased, I am simply asking to gain knowledge and understand the facts.
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CPT Jack Durish
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Of course it's political. All war is political. So what's your point? (I love confusing the bastards)
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MSgt James Mullis
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Exactly what I was going to say!
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SFC John Hill
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Depending on which translation one reads, remember Clausewitz’s statement “war is simply a continuation of political intercourse, with the addition of other means.”
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COL Lee Flemming
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Politics? ...tell that to my Soldiers that are missing limbs, friend's children that no longer have parents and my wife who has spent years alone raising my daughter...
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I believe you have misunderstood the troopers question. The question is about 'why are we fighting?' This question is raised by every generation. As the trooper lacks the advantage of ILE and War College, his frame of reference is different.
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SMSgt Lawrence McCarter - Politics is in every organization and the reason for almost every conflict is failed diplomacy. Although the battlefield is a different environment than DC or any other capitol city, the reason for the location and the strategic purpose for the conflict is entirely political. Combatants may not perceive the political reason or influence but it exists. Politicians send soldiers, sailors, marines, airmen and Coast Guard to combat instead of continuing diplomatic effort or going themselves. These combatants are surrogates for the politicians and once combat is concluded, the politicians return to negotiate treaties.
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SMSgt Lawrence McCarter
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COL (Join to see) - Can't argue that the cause is political nor are those on the battlefield ignorant to that fact. Large financial gains is also a factor with some of those politicians involved. that is not anything new. Most of us in Viet Nam were well aware of those facts an not happy with the micro-Management from Washington politicians, often self serving and for greed. Even the Rules of Engagement We were bound by were well appreciated by the enemy, they had no such restrictions. There is no shortage of reasons Men and women end up in combat but it isn't the politicians that pay in blood !
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SMSgt Lawrence McCarter - If politicians had to put anything at risk, beyond their chances to retain office, I suspect we would have far fewer conflicts and more conflicts with a clearer determination of the outcomes desired before we engage in conflict. Unfortunately, finding uncorruptible citizens, who selfless serve in office, is a real challenge. Too many have too much to gain personally, while 'serving' in office. Corruption apparently has become the norm, which is why I believe Trump has made it as far as he has.
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As much as I hate to quote Clausewitz, loosely as the original is in old German and each translation is different, "war is the continuation of politics by other means."
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Dead Carl was right on there.
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Someone remembered his ILE.
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