Posted on Oct 18, 2016
Can anyone provide clarification regarding USAREC 16-071 and my status?
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Hi. Thank you for taking the time to read my question and thank you in advance for your responses.
I am looking for some specific guidance on USAREC 16-071. Specifically paragraph 7D. I am currently an E-5 88N in the Reserve, but havent completed WLC. I have heard from a recruiter that the grade determination will come back as E-4 without WLC. If that is the case, would I be eligible to reenlist under the rule listed in paragraph 7D (Option 3 or Option 18)? While my total TIS is just over 10 years, less than 3 of that was active federal service. The rest has been Reserve and a long stretch in the IRR. That being said, would they go off of my active duty time only or would they count the IRR time as well? Does this status make me eligible to reenlist into the RA? I have listed this paragraph below.
7d) Applicants in the grade of E-4 and below with 48 months or less active duty are authorized to enlist Option 3 (Training of Choice) or Option 18 (First Assignment Only) (if MOS qualified) to serve in a targeted MOS as identified by the ROC.
I am looking for some specific guidance on USAREC 16-071. Specifically paragraph 7D. I am currently an E-5 88N in the Reserve, but havent completed WLC. I have heard from a recruiter that the grade determination will come back as E-4 without WLC. If that is the case, would I be eligible to reenlist under the rule listed in paragraph 7D (Option 3 or Option 18)? While my total TIS is just over 10 years, less than 3 of that was active federal service. The rest has been Reserve and a long stretch in the IRR. That being said, would they go off of my active duty time only or would they count the IRR time as well? Does this status make me eligible to reenlist into the RA? I have listed this paragraph below.
7d) Applicants in the grade of E-4 and below with 48 months or less active duty are authorized to enlist Option 3 (Training of Choice) or Option 18 (First Assignment Only) (if MOS qualified) to serve in a targeted MOS as identified by the ROC.
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Posted 8 y ago
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Usually they only add up your DD-214s. I was a recruiter many moons ago (early 90s) and we only looked at DD-214s to add up Active Duty time. So things like Annual Training, short-term AD orders, drills, etc. do not figure into your total active service. Not sure what they do now, I would assume close to the same. USAREC does not do that fine-detailed calculation of your Active Duty time. However, when you do enter the Army, the personnel office will do a more thorough account of all of your service, to be calculated for retirement. I had some reserve time with a few extra short tours not included in a DD-214, and it added a few months to my retirement.
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MSG David Rogers III
That being said, save everything! Get a copy of every set of orders for everything you've ever done in the Reserve. This will help you 17 years from now!
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I am in USAREC. What city and state are you in and I will put you in touch with a local recruiter. In the mean time, how old are you? Also, AFS will only count your IET and deployment; not calculated reserve points. When they refer to grade reduction not being favorable, they are referring to if you voluntarily tale a grade reduction; not as a result of the grade determination waiver. Just go see your local recruiter or call SFC Adkins @ [login to see] . He was one of my Soldiers who is currently a recruiting center leader out of Richmond, VA. Hope this helps.
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