Is there a line between corrective training & bad leadership?

Private wall to wall counseling session has a time and place, you'll no doubt bennift from being my second. Do you know how to polish a pair of combat boots? The value of old practices is lost on such mundane tasks. You would be surprised. NCO's of the old school actually had great stories to learn from... I was An E-7 for over 1.5 years and Retired now for 9 years.

theres situation where one is better than the other.... and sometimes that means publicly

I agree with PO Holland. That said, I feel that there is no need to have the person wear a sign, but rather having the person standing a parade rest then snapping to attention and stating "I forgot my ID card" for a minimal set time, would get the point across with minimal humiliation. With that, I also believe that the leader be present in the vicinity to ensure that the person knows how serious you are about the issue. Then a short (I stress short) counseling session, then move on. Chances are that no one will forget their ID's for a very long time.

I think in todays age of priviledged being wether humilitaed in oublic with a sign or even told to get a hair cut in front of a barbershop will find some horrible disdain and feel that their liberal rights have been violated. Lost ID card as opposed to forgotten ID card is a difference, this is something an enemy can duplicte copy and use against us... importance is high as it is a sensitive item. I wouldnt have used a big sign but something a bit more subtle like have him report to me every hour for a sensitive items check involving both he and I and additional checks when he needed it for chow but I would be inconveniently located so it took some effort to find me but still give him some time to eat, but the SM would have to eat fast. Like the hair cut example, for my commander to call me in about it then report to the other commander should have never happened. If I were your commander I would have told the other commander to check his people otherwise mine wold have to do it for him unless, you were being accused of being a complete ass to the SM in public.. I which case I wouldnt correct you for stating the SM needed a hair cut I would correct you for not being a professional in public and the other commander doesnt have to know that because if his NCOs did their jobs that SM would have had a proper hair cut but while under my command you wont act a fool like that again otherwise I would have to come up with some creative corrective actions for that NCO. I always told my soldiers that I would much rather give them an Ass Chewing than to put things on paper, cause if its on paper then I feel like I am in the process of chaptering them out, taking rank or money and time (I should say recommend as I was a NCO). Its even and I fee fair, if your adult you should be able to handle it, then correct it and it can be dropped and we can move on... I was pretty much a PR$&K if you know what I mean when chewing but, but I hope my juniors knew it came from alot of care because no one else can chew them but me and any problems they had was squashed because I would always go to bat for them... so much so I have civilian housing people call the MPs on me..... If you care you will do what is best for them but only if you get to know them.... I think that is the first step to leadership as for other steps.. well I think I took up too much of all your times already... (difference between fratrinizing and knowing and learning)