Posted on Jun 17, 2014
Why are some jobs viewed as "bad" for your career?
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So, I was assigned to an AC-RC unit following school and I keep hearing different things regarding the AC-RC assignment. Some good but mostly not. There are those who call it a career killer, some ask me if I got in troouble, others asked if branch just hated me, etc, etc.
My question is if the Army wants well-rounded individuals and has needs it needs to fill, then why would any job be considered as "bad" for your career?
Are there any jobs you consider to be bad for a person's career?
My question is if the Army wants well-rounded individuals and has needs it needs to fill, then why would any job be considered as "bad" for your career?
Are there any jobs you consider to be bad for a person's career?
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Sir, in my experience and opinion, any assignment where you are working above your current rank, any assignment where you are working above your current skill set, and any assignment where you are exemplifying the diversity that our Army is looking for are things we should be striving for. For the enlisted side of the house, those positions include, but are not limited to, Drill Sergeant, Recruiter, AIT Platoon Sergeant, Instructor, AC/RC, and OC.
Each of those nominative type assignments bring unique challenges. If you meet those challenges and excel, then you have checked the block for assignment diversity.
Now, there are those positions that are considered "shelving posts." What I mean by that is that those are the position that are probably commensurate with your last rank and are given to you as an alternative to QMP or a pink slip. If you receive one of those, I would hope that you have already read the writing on the wall.
Maybe it is the faithfulness in me, but I do honestly believe, and I have seen this to fruition, that if you are proactive in with your career, the Army will do right by you.
Each of those nominative type assignments bring unique challenges. If you meet those challenges and excel, then you have checked the block for assignment diversity.
Now, there are those positions that are considered "shelving posts." What I mean by that is that those are the position that are probably commensurate with your last rank and are given to you as an alternative to QMP or a pink slip. If you receive one of those, I would hope that you have already read the writing on the wall.
Maybe it is the faithfulness in me, but I do honestly believe, and I have seen this to fruition, that if you are proactive in with your career, the Army will do right by you.
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MSG(P) Michael Warrick
SSG Justin McCoy - that good for the RTI life but you need to come out to the unit life and get from underneath the shelter !
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1SG Steven Stankovich
You are checking all the right blocks SSG McCoy. Sometimes, and this is the hardest thing to accept, there just aren't the slots available, or the numbers, for promotion. If there are 10 NCOs who walk on water, but only two allocations for SFC, eight of those are going to be disappointed. The only thing that you can do at that point in time is continue to tighten up your shot group.
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It's not necessarily going to hurt your career, but it depends on your career aspirations. The people that sit on promotion boards typically got there because they followed a certain path (i.e., operational assignments) and so when they have to choose between many equally successful officers they may tend to lean towards the ones that took the tougher (or more familiar) road. Also, they're more likely to recognize your rater or senior rater's name if they run in the same circles. The odds that they'll be impressed by your current assignment or recognize your AC/RC rater's name is probably lower. If you want to be a battalion commander, you need counsel with current or former commanders and do not accept another assignment without talking to one of your mentors. Don't just let your branch manager use you as fodder for his or her requirements. They need to fill jobs with good officers and they're good at their jobs. You need to manage your own career. A good mentor can help you navigate through the tough decisions because they've already been where you want to go and can advise you on how to best position yourself to reach your goals.
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LTC Paul Labrador
Very true LTC Sachariason. If you want to command, you have to prove that you can command. And the only way to do that is follow a career path that will put you in those key positions.
Another thing to consider is that during your career progression, you only have a limited time in each grade to prepare yourself for the next. Certain experiences better prepares you for certain things than others.
Another thing to consider is that during your career progression, you only have a limited time in each grade to prepare yourself for the next. Certain experiences better prepares you for certain things than others.
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2LT Lopez, first of all congratulations on your commissioning! Start with where you are now and where you have been. Who are the key people that helped you form your character and leadership philosophy. If you haven't already, reach out to them and thank them for their help. Tell them that you'd like to stay in touch and seek their advice as you move forward in your new challenges and then follow through by staying in contact. Developing those types of relationships now will also help you to identify new mentors as you grow and set higher goals. Good luck.
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Sir, thank you for the great response. It was very insightful. In the interest of full disclosure I have had 17 months of company command at the operational level. So I am not as concerned about being behind the 8-ball where that is concerned. However, I do want to get another command as a Captain since only 9 of the 17 months are being counted for KD. (something about 1LTs cannot get KD time until they are promotable). My last OER I was rated as a 1LT(p) by my Brigade Commander, received an ACOM and top ten of 39 rated company commanders.
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There aren't any "bad" jobs in the military. It is all relative. AC/RC isn't a bad job or a career killer. In comparison to a post Command job as an OC/T at the National Training Center, it is looked upon less favorably in a board. One of the reasons behind that are dependent on what the board guidance has (the CSA actually provides guidance of where to focus for each board - ranger experience, joint experience, AC/RC experience). Also, baord members gravitate to (as previously stated by LTC Sachariason) the "hard jobs." Those jobs that are seen as more difficult and have more responsibility. If you compare AC/RC to the OC/T position at NTC or JRTC, you can see a marked difference in the two duties. That's not taking anything away from the AC/RC job, it just isn't as demanding...and thus not as competitive. There are other jobs that would make you more competitive for promotion as well: being a JCS Intern, being a Aide-de-Camp for a 2 star, etc. All that being said, what it still comes down to is ACOMs on an OER and high enumeration. Someone with a COM profile who is an OC/T versus someone with an ACOM profile at AC/RC...the ACOM performer is going to win out. So, even though it may not seem like it, doing the best you can in any job you are given is still the key to success. I served for 2 years in a place that some people considered a career ender (BCTP...now MCTP at Fort Leavenworth). Me and two of my peers in the same unit are all Battalion level commanders now.
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Sir, thank you for the comments. I guess that was what I was trying to get at with my original question. I had as much control over my next posting as I could but in the end they put me where they put me and one of the reasons given was because of my experience as a company commander in an operational unit. I was just surprised by the comments from others and wanted to gain some perspective.
I usually hear similar thoughts from others who have had "career killer" jobs. It comes down to performance and how much you challenge yourself.
I usually hear similar thoughts from others who have had "career killer" jobs. It comes down to performance and how much you challenge yourself.
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COL Vincent Stoneking
CPT (Join to see) Your command time makes your a great asset for the AC/RC gig. What I notice a lot is that big Army likes to send O3's fresh from the career course, when what is really needed is (successful) post-command CPTs.
I think the other LTCs have already said most of what I would have on the basic question. There are few career-ending jobs, only career-ending performances. Some are more visible, easier to stand out in than others, true. At the end of the day, you can be a Hero or a Zero in ANY slot in the Army.
I think the other LTCs have already said most of what I would have on the basic question. There are few career-ending jobs, only career-ending performances. Some are more visible, easier to stand out in than others, true. At the end of the day, you can be a Hero or a Zero in ANY slot in the Army.
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