Posted on May 23, 2016
SFC Motor Transport Operator
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So im in a spot where im debating about leaving this Nightmare of AGR (1st tour). If I do so, what happens next. Also to initiate this movement I would need to submit a 4187 correct?
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I would advise against coming off tour. Unless you have an equivalent or better civilian job lined up. Your current assignment is temporary, state side tour length is 3-5 years on station. I know that your initial assignment can be a bit of a culture shock AGR is not like Regular Army or traditional Army Reserve. We are the problem solvers and often we're thrown into the fray without any support and have to make order from chaos. The way forward is to do it for the Soldiers, protect them from toxic and ineffective command teams, get them trained, and make something from nothing.
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MSG Pat Colby
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You nailed it SFC Cozart! Being an AGR Training NCO is a tough row to hoe. More often than not, the Training NCO has a better handle on the Unit than the 1SG. LOTS of delicate situations to keep from the impression of usurping the Command while doing the Right thing.

Being his first Tour, makes it especially tough.
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SFC Motor Transport Operator
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what do you do when you get no support from anyone ? they shoved me to SAF 200 miles away from main body and expect me to do a good job ? im beyond annoyed at this chain of command and ready to just walk out.
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CPT Signal Officer
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I am now in that position and ready to run.
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MSG Pat Colby
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If you are stuck in a shit Unit, 4187 your way to another Command. If you do walk away (Which I would discourage), make sure you can stay in TPU-Land. Gotta get that 20 year letter....
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MSG Pat Colby
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DUDE! Are you really in Iowa? Cherokee is about an hour and a half from me! Training NCO Position? I could assist with those nightmares as well....
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SFC Motor Transport Operator
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yes Cherokee.
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MSG Pat Colby
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We gotta meet up in Spencer one day soon!
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This is encouraging. You are helping him.
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CPT Joseph K Murdock
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Before doing that, see if you can work at another unit that is not FUBAR.
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SFC Motor Transport Operator
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HRC made it clear that they are not moving me anywhere.
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SFC (Join to see) - So whatever happened? Did you leave the AGR program?
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