Posted on Apr 29, 2016
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I understand, and support their 1st amendment right of the press. I know that the Supreme Court has decided that if someone is on a public sidewalk they can film in any direction they want, and that no person or entity has a reasonable expectation of privacy in a public place.

What does this do to our security protocols, and how to we professionally deal with these situations?
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LTC Yinon Weiss
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It means that security at bases shouldn't rely on what is publicly seen from the street. That should just be the public facing facade.

Otherwise does that mean we arrest people who take pictures with their kids in front of the White House? That's an awful direction for our country to take. It just means security should be more nuance than what you see at the gate.
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CPT Jack Durish
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Good response. You beat me to it.
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SFC Teaching Staff
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As an MP on base, we have observed that kind of activity. While still observing constitutional rights, WE have the right to investigate. There is nothing wrong with sending MP's to politely ask questions about why they are taking photos/video. On one occasion, it was actually a camera crew doing a report for school or something similar. If the response is given politely and the answer is sensible, "have a nice day. We appreciate your cooperation and we hope you understand why we approached you."

If it gets ugly and they are combative, try to get the license place/ID as normally and log it in. Depending on clues, intuition etc, it may be something to share with local PD and local fusion center.

No rights have been violated, our presence and vigilance is observed by would be bad guys, and we have done our job.
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how would you get their id if they are doing nothing illegal
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SFC Ray Calef
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You can investigate, but they are under no obligation to cooperate with the investigation of they are not on base property.
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It would be a consensual encounter. They can refuse.
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It would be a consensual encounter. They can refuse.
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SFC Wade W.
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Most installations have signs posted about this very thing. That being said it is normally OK for the gates to have photos taken for news and personal use (I was here). If there are no signs about photos being prevented then nothing can be done. As a 25 yr MP I have dealt with this quite often. Before 9/11 many CONUS Army posts were open (no fences) and people took photos of a lot of things that they shouldn't have. When in doubt though, report it.
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SSG MLRS Automated Tactical Data Systems Specialist
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I've done it, something similar, for B-roll footage purposes, and let the gate guard(s) know what I was up to so they wouldn't think I was a weirdo out there, up to no good and whatnot. It's a slippery slope, and could be taken out of context if you don't announce what you're up to. Personally, I would HOPE somebody approaches him and see what he's up to. If he's innocent, he has nothing to hide.
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