Posted on Jun 9, 2014
An Open Letter to the Open Carry Community: Let’s Talk
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One of my leftist hoplophobe friends asked me to speak out about a trend that she finds terrifying. Since I agree with her (in his case), I obliged.
I have my asbestos undies on.
I have my asbestos undies on.
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SSgt Michael Hacker With all due respect, that is the most ridiculous gibberish I have ever read. The writer tries equate someone waving his penis in your face with someone open carrying. Are you serious? If someone waves his gun in your face he gets arrested for brandishing. If they are convicted they can no longer own a gun. So are you saying if Jimmy waves his penis in my face he will get arrested and if convicted have his penis removed and not be allowed to have one ever again?
I am tired of people and especially the NRA constantly falling back and saying "OK we won't do XYZ in order to preserve our ability to own guns." each of these steps backwards leads to tyranny and the removal of our RIGHTS not given by man, not given by congress, not the president but God given rights as out lined in the Constitution.
Obama has blocked importing American made guns, mainly the M1 Garand, back into the United States from places they were left during the wars that our military men and women fought in using those guns. Now Russian made guns were blocked today to punish Putin.
When I grew up the United States was a free nation.
I am tired of people and especially the NRA constantly falling back and saying "OK we won't do XYZ in order to preserve our ability to own guns." each of these steps backwards leads to tyranny and the removal of our RIGHTS not given by man, not given by congress, not the president but God given rights as out lined in the Constitution.
Obama has blocked importing American made guns, mainly the M1 Garand, back into the United States from places they were left during the wars that our military men and women fought in using those guns. Now Russian made guns were blocked today to punish Putin.
When I grew up the United States was a free nation.
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So SSgt,
Am I to understand that you are comparing people who carry a firearm openly for the defense of their selves and those around them to, quite literally sex offenders waving around the genitals around on crowded streets, in front of children? That is what it seems to be the stance you are taking, or by your linking this article, at least supporting that stance. Moreover, this kind of comparison is absurd; our founding fathers foresaw tyranny and this is the reason that the second amendment exists. If you really and truly believe that the waving around of your penis is akin to a rifle for the purposes of defeating tyranny, than by all means, feel free to walk up to the white house and demand that politicians start doing the job they were elected to do.
However, if you have no further interest in a potential "debate" as to the purpose of the second amendment and the rights of the people (keep in mind that you swore an oath defend the constitution and were never released from that oath) then by all means, i will completely ignore this thread, if your only interest is anecdotal arguments, mocking your fellow citizens then by all means, good day.
If you are interested in having an actual debate, i would be more than interested in hearing a legitimate argument against open carry/concealed carry/ owning firearms, etc.
Am I to understand that you are comparing people who carry a firearm openly for the defense of their selves and those around them to, quite literally sex offenders waving around the genitals around on crowded streets, in front of children? That is what it seems to be the stance you are taking, or by your linking this article, at least supporting that stance. Moreover, this kind of comparison is absurd; our founding fathers foresaw tyranny and this is the reason that the second amendment exists. If you really and truly believe that the waving around of your penis is akin to a rifle for the purposes of defeating tyranny, than by all means, feel free to walk up to the white house and demand that politicians start doing the job they were elected to do.
However, if you have no further interest in a potential "debate" as to the purpose of the second amendment and the rights of the people (keep in mind that you swore an oath defend the constitution and were never released from that oath) then by all means, i will completely ignore this thread, if your only interest is anecdotal arguments, mocking your fellow citizens then by all means, good day.
If you are interested in having an actual debate, i would be more than interested in hearing a legitimate argument against open carry/concealed carry/ owning firearms, etc.
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Cpl Westin Sandberg
"I Don't know what you understand, but that isn't what I wrote."
SSgt, Forgive me, I am just a dumb USMC Grunt vet, and haven't had many English college classes since my separation, but as far as what I've learned thus far; that is not proper English. With all due respect, i sincerely hope i never have you for a Professor of any class.
SSgt, Forgive me, I am just a dumb USMC Grunt vet, and haven't had many English college classes since my separation, but as far as what I've learned thus far; that is not proper English. With all due respect, i sincerely hope i never have you for a Professor of any class.
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Michael,
First and foremost, it is a constitutional right for Americans to own firearms and I like to feel that I have a good enough understanding as to why that was made a basic right for Americans ...That being said, I completely agree with the end of the article that explains how we have a responsibility not to abuse our rights and how we can better show ourselves while exercising our rights in public. I am not a fan of seeing "Assault" style rifles in large populated areas as they are designed for tactical uses...but hey who am I to judge and far be it for me to say no to it..as long as it is clear that the person carrying an instrument of death is also taking the time to learn about the weapon and understand how things could go wrong in an instant ( such as the ND scenario explained by Ryan McConville) so that they are aware of the responsibility that comes with owning and carrying the weapon(s)
First and foremost, it is a constitutional right for Americans to own firearms and I like to feel that I have a good enough understanding as to why that was made a basic right for Americans ...That being said, I completely agree with the end of the article that explains how we have a responsibility not to abuse our rights and how we can better show ourselves while exercising our rights in public. I am not a fan of seeing "Assault" style rifles in large populated areas as they are designed for tactical uses...but hey who am I to judge and far be it for me to say no to it..as long as it is clear that the person carrying an instrument of death is also taking the time to learn about the weapon and understand how things could go wrong in an instant ( such as the ND scenario explained by Ryan McConville) so that they are aware of the responsibility that comes with owning and carrying the weapon(s)
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I prefer open carry. Not only is it easier for me, it gives people an opportunity to ask questions. I have had no less than a dozen people come up and ask me if it was even legal to open carry (I am currently in WA). It's astounding how many people are just plain ignorant about their legal rights. Most of the time when I carry concealed it's when I'm entering a place that has "no gun" signs. There are only a few, legally specified, places in WA you cannot carry. I am referring to places like malls and movie theaters. Seeing as almost all mass killings in the last decade have taken place in "gun free zones", I refuse to be a victim of opportunity. No, what I do is not illegal. "No gun" signs DO NOT have force of law in this state. This means that unless I am on private property and asked to leave, in which case if I stayed I could be charged with trespass, I have no legal obligation to disarm. There is no moral high ground in being a victim, so I will limit the possibility of that happening to the utmost of my ability.
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