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With the fresh interest in this question, i do need to point out that it was asked over a year ago originality. At that time there were some Officers who were upset that there were being asked to recite "The Sailors Creed" while in the training pipeline. This was a requirement by CNET, RADM Rondeau.
The Sailor's Creed
I am a United States Sailor. I will
support and defend the Constitution of the United States
of America and I will obey the orders of
those appointed over me. I represent the fighting spirit of the Navy and those
who have gone before me to defend freedom and democracy around the world. I
proudly serve my country's Navy combat team with Honor, Courage, and
Commitment. I am committed to excellence and the fair treatment of all.
The Sailor's Creed
I am a United States Sailor. I will
support and defend the Constitution of the United States
of America and I will obey the orders of
those appointed over me. I represent the fighting spirit of the Navy and those
who have gone before me to defend freedom and democracy around the world. I
proudly serve my country's Navy combat team with Honor, Courage, and
Commitment. I am committed to excellence and the fair treatment of all.
Officers
Sailors
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Admiral Burke, an officer who served 3 times as Chief of Naval Operations said it himself. If you've ever seen his headstone, at the Naval Academy - it has one word: Sailor. If it's good enough for a naval warrior - it should be good enough for the rest.
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CAPT Phillip B.
Proud mustang officer here - I'll join the fray.
Are officers in the Army soldiers? Are officers in the Marine Corps marines?
I will gladly cut down to size any naval officers who tries to "set themselves apart" in this manner. Naval personnel are sailors. End of discussion. A Chief Carpenter, with all due respect - you are partly correct. "Officers and men" is a correct statement - but all are sailing together for a common cause...they are all sailors, each simply serving in a different capacity.
Are officers in the Army soldiers? Are officers in the Marine Corps marines?
I will gladly cut down to size any naval officers who tries to "set themselves apart" in this manner. Naval personnel are sailors. End of discussion. A Chief Carpenter, with all due respect - you are partly correct. "Officers and men" is a correct statement - but all are sailing together for a common cause...they are all sailors, each simply serving in a different capacity.
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PO3 Patricia Lyons
I don't know why folks seem so sensitive and competitive. There is an obvious difference in paygrade and authority...probably even responsibility I wager is where the chiefs would argue. If you go into a hospital the doctors carry most of the authority, sign the documents and get paid better. Everyone else ends up with a heavier work load. But at the end of the day they are all health care workers. Hopefully you end up working for someone who is responsible and knows how to lead. Otherwise you do your best to get along.
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Are we perhaps making this more complicated than it is? Are you in the Navy ? Congrats, you're a Sailor.
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CPO Jim Turner damn, I should have been a corpsman. I guess i just watched too much MASH growing up.
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PO1 (Join to see)
We're still Sailors, BU2. Just because we don't sail, it doesn't mean we're not. And, like it or not, just above our left breast pocket, it says, "U.S. Navy". We all started off boot camp as Seaman Recruit, regardless of what rate we were promised.
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SFC Michael Hasbun
CH (CPT) Heather Davis - Really? Not one of them? At least one should be awesome! The trickster gods are pretty people friendly =)
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<p>Master Chief; respectfully we are all Soldiers first in the Army. I am out of my lane to comment but from my understanding the Navy was derived from the British. That being said their is a distinct class system between the Officers and the Enlisted. The Officer's have their mess and the Enlisted eat in the galley.</p><p><br></p><p>Unlike the other services, there's a bright line dividing officers and enlisted.
Officers eat separately and wear different uniforms. Their living areas — "O
Country," as it's known — are often off-limits to enlisted. For ages, they've
called themselves naval officers, a distinction in keeping with the hierarchical
order aboard ship. The person who swabbed the decks was a sailor, a term
ill-suited to the ship's commander. By contrast, the term "sailor" was reserved
for enlisted men and women.</p>
Officers eat separately and wear different uniforms. Their living areas — "O
Country," as it's known — are often off-limits to enlisted. For ages, they've
called themselves naval officers, a distinction in keeping with the hierarchical
order aboard ship. The person who swabbed the decks was a sailor, a term
ill-suited to the ship's commander. By contrast, the term "sailor" was reserved
for enlisted men and women.</p>
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There still are legal distinction between officers and enlisted, hence differences in pay and UCMJ. IE the baby faced Army LT found guilty for violating ROE when the two Afghans were killed on a motorcycle. However he was given a chance to explain his reasoning for waving ROE. His judgement was obviously wrong.
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CH (CPT) Heather Davis
LCDR Meyer:
You started from the enlisted side and if you ask you fellow Officers that started from being an Officer they would disagree with you. You are a Mustang!
You started from the enlisted side and if you ask you fellow Officers that started from being an Officer they would disagree with you. You are a Mustang!
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CH (CPT) Heather Davis
LCDR Meyer:
My Father was in the Navy in WWII and if I know anything he hated officers, and despised them. When you look back into Navy history Sailors were enlisted.
My Father was in the Navy in WWII and if I know anything he hated officers, and despised them. When you look back into Navy history Sailors were enlisted.
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CPO Michael Callegri
The only other issue here that is not totally true is that in the Navy The Chiefs also have their own Mess and sleeping quarters aboard ships. The structure in the Navy is totally different than the other services. I think everyone is tying to make a difference between gala apples and golden delicious apples, they are both still apples.
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