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Got an NCO who thinks he can wear his Leather Jacket with his ACU's. He is known to be a wise guy, so I just wanted to get some clarification since it's not stated in AR 670-1 about mixing civilian clothing items while on duty. He tried to tell me that as long as the temperature is below a certain temperature, then it is authorized. Are you freakin kidding me? LOL. I asked to see the reg.
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Here is the best reference to the Regulation that I can find in AR 670-1:
Pay particular attention to section F
3–9. Civilian clothing
a. Civilian clothing is authorized for wear when off duty, unless the wear is prohibited by the senior commander.
Commanders down to unit level may restrict the wear of civilian clothes by those Soldiers who have had their pass
privileges revoked. Within the confines of a military base or a DoD installation, civilian clothing will be worn subject
to local regulations.
b. When on duty in civilian clothes or off duty and outside of their personal dwelling, Army personnel will present a
professional image that does not detract from the profession, unless specifically exempted by the commander for
specific mission requirements.
c. Soldiers are associated and identified with the Army in and out of uniform, and when on or off duty. Therefore,
when civilian clothing is worn, Soldiers will ensure that their dress and personal appearance are commensurate with the
high standards traditionally associated with Army service. Commanders are charged with determining and publishing
the local civilian clothing policy. When on a military installation, civilian headgear will be removed indoors in
accordance with established norms.
d. When civilian clothing has been authorized by competent authority for wear in a duty status in lieu of a uniform,
the civilian clothing will be of the same comparable degree of formality as the uniform prescribed for such duty.
Standards of dress and appearance will be conservative and meet the same high standards established for personnel in
uniform.
e. The wear of clothing articles not specifically designed to be normally worn as headgear (for example, bandannas,
do rags) are prohibited while on duty.
f. No part of a prescribed uniform, except those items not exclusively military in character, may be worn with
civilian clothing.
g. Uniform items authorized for wear with civilian clothing by males are restricted to the gold cuff links, studs, tie
bar, mourning band, footwear, socks, gloves, undergarments, black bow-tie, wool scarf, all-weather coat, fleece caps,
and physical training uniforms.
h. Uniform items authorized for wear with civilian clothing by females are restricted to the white shirt without
insignia of grade, undergarments, footwear, gloves, handbag, clutch purse, wool scarf, all-weather coat, fleece caps, and
physical training uniforms.
i. Uniform items that have been declared obsolete may be worn with civilian clothing, provided such items contain
no distinctive insignia or buttons.
Pay particular attention to section F
3–9. Civilian clothing
a. Civilian clothing is authorized for wear when off duty, unless the wear is prohibited by the senior commander.
Commanders down to unit level may restrict the wear of civilian clothes by those Soldiers who have had their pass
privileges revoked. Within the confines of a military base or a DoD installation, civilian clothing will be worn subject
to local regulations.
b. When on duty in civilian clothes or off duty and outside of their personal dwelling, Army personnel will present a
professional image that does not detract from the profession, unless specifically exempted by the commander for
specific mission requirements.
c. Soldiers are associated and identified with the Army in and out of uniform, and when on or off duty. Therefore,
when civilian clothing is worn, Soldiers will ensure that their dress and personal appearance are commensurate with the
high standards traditionally associated with Army service. Commanders are charged with determining and publishing
the local civilian clothing policy. When on a military installation, civilian headgear will be removed indoors in
accordance with established norms.
d. When civilian clothing has been authorized by competent authority for wear in a duty status in lieu of a uniform,
the civilian clothing will be of the same comparable degree of formality as the uniform prescribed for such duty.
Standards of dress and appearance will be conservative and meet the same high standards established for personnel in
uniform.
e. The wear of clothing articles not specifically designed to be normally worn as headgear (for example, bandannas,
do rags) are prohibited while on duty.
f. No part of a prescribed uniform, except those items not exclusively military in character, may be worn with
civilian clothing.
g. Uniform items authorized for wear with civilian clothing by males are restricted to the gold cuff links, studs, tie
bar, mourning band, footwear, socks, gloves, undergarments, black bow-tie, wool scarf, all-weather coat, fleece caps,
and physical training uniforms.
h. Uniform items authorized for wear with civilian clothing by females are restricted to the white shirt without
insignia of grade, undergarments, footwear, gloves, handbag, clutch purse, wool scarf, all-weather coat, fleece caps, and
physical training uniforms.
i. Uniform items that have been declared obsolete may be worn with civilian clothing, provided such items contain
no distinctive insignia or buttons.
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The only exception I know of is "Personal Protective Gear" for Motorcycle Riding (which is likely USMC specific), which only applies while on the bike.
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS - I used to get so many weird looks when I wore my ACU field jacket. That thing beats Gortex ECWCS any day.
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
SGT (Join to see) - Gortex is designed for Wind & Water not "cold." Field Jacket is designed for Cold, but won't protect against Water & Wind. I used to be a North Face dealer, and we had to teach government buyers to purchase both a "shell" (Gortex) and a "liner" (jacket).
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COL (Join to see)
That's the only occasion it would be authorized. Even then, technically when you get off the bike, you take off the jacket. Immediately. You don't walk into the PX wearing the jacket. You take it off, stow it or carry it.
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
COL (Join to see) - USMC policy was identical, and part of the base rider safety course.
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About the only time you are allowed to wear a leather jacket with ACU's on is if it's protective riding leathers worn when you are riding a motorcycle. But that is usually a post specific policy.
And no, you are issued cold weather gear for a reason........
And no, you are issued cold weather gear for a reason........
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