Posted on Jan 3, 2016
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So, In August, I was told I had finally been promoted to a slot in another unit, and my PCS was effective, that I would need to report to my new unit for drill the following month, September. A week later, I got a call from the platoon sgt. at my old unit whom instructed me to report to drill with them, so as to participate in Annual PHS, saving my new unit the hassle of finding me a time and date to attend PHS.

So, I go with my old unit, spend all day there, and finally get dismissed. 2 weeks later, I noticed I hadn't gotten paid like usual, so instead of bothering either admin NCO, I decided to wait a little longer incase the pay hadn't been processed yet.

Next drill rolls around, october, and still hadn't been paid so I mention it to my new units Admin and readiness NCO, and they tell me they look into it.

The next month, November, having heard nothing, I asked for the status, and was told there is nothing that could be done about it, due to the fact that the old unit did not have me on their books to pay me, and the new unit did not know to start paying me. And that since the missed pay was for the previous fiscal year, September, that all the money allocated to pay for that drill had been spent and there was no money.

So my biggest question is, does my having a contract for my services with the US government not protect me from being infringed upon with my pay? Or can they do just that?

I find it hard to believe that I come to work and just because some one else goofed I don't get paid. Its not about the money, I dont need the money. Its the principle, especially in that of a new unit.
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SGT (Join to see) Don't know what your links have to do with the topic at hand?
SSG James J. Palmer IV aka "JP4"
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SSG James J. Palmer IV aka "JP4" Looks like it's been taken care of. I believe the boss got it..lol
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LtCol Robert Quinter
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Well done
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Haha just seeing these posts, and yes it was coded correctly, but no I was not paid. My losing unit coded me, somehow, though I was on my gaining units books. The losing unit called me today and are taking a deeper look into it.
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Most likely you fell off the books at your old unit sometime between receiving instruction to report there and performing the duty, and no one communicated.
At issue is that your former unit can not pay you if you are not on the books, and your new unit does in fact have an FY challenge. I am less sure about the Guard, but I know EXACTLY how it works in the Reserve.
Here's what you need to do, SGT (Join to see):
1. If you haven't done so already, get an authenticated DA 1380 (or Guard equivalent) signed by someone in your old unit that can certify that you performed the duty.
2. Present that to your new unit, and fill out a pay inquiry (DA 2142 or Guard equivalent) to send to the State AG office. In the Reserve, it is the Reserve Pay Center in Fort McCoy; in the Guard it is almost certainly the state AG office.
3. If that fails, it is likely because your new unit just doesn't want to explain the reasons surrounding why they didn't do so in a timely manner (lack of communication is seldom an accepted excuse) or more insidiously, because the full time staff doesn't see it as their issue. IT IS their issue, because you were assigned to them. At this point, you'll need to go to the IG and get it sorted out.

You are entitled to the pay.
The argument that "there is no money" is bull$#!t. There is money alright, it is just in centralized accounts for exactly this reason, and needs a pretty big fish to release it. It is the state's money.
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If you haven't gone to your new unit's First Sergeant, I only have two words for you: Sergeant Major. You'd be surprised how fast you'll get answers and results.
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