Posted on Dec 14, 2015
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SSG(P) Casualty Operations Ncoic
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For one thing, the height and weight charts found in AR 600-9 need to be updated to reflect modern people. Those charts are from the 1950s. They do not take into account those who bodybuild, yet are still very "in shape" and/or "fit." According to the charts, those people are outside the Army's idea of "in shape."
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Agreed. For instance, Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson has a BMI of 34 and I have seen some soldiers who body build who have to get taped all the time.
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SGT Victoria Belbusti
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I totally agree! I was also going to mention Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson. I find that many chain of commands have been against body building. I started lifting weights and I was told I would be too big. I worked with a trainer, lost 30lbs, tape 5% under and was able to max my APFT. Paid out of my own pocket to do this. Then I got put on late ranges to cover down for the APFT and BF failures. There has to be a solution.
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LTC Acquisition Intelligence
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SGT Sean Wilke, here is one officer (who knows many others) that doesn't want to keep the status quo. Most officers I know in the Army think the height-weight and tape taste are antiquated, and want to see a positive change. (PS, at age 42 I can still smoke plenty of young guys in PT, as can the majority of officers I work with)
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The charts are easy to blame and that's a big part of it. However there are other factors to consider mainly nutrition and fitness.

On nutrition we rely on the solider making good choices yet we never educate them or have good official training on it. Many people will say that's there responsibility but I could list a dozen other things that should be. we are adults and are responsible for our lives or not. You can not cherry pick which issues of a soldiers day to day life are army responsibility it's all or nothing.

On physical training, we are bad it. That's a cold hard academic fact. I could list a dozen ways our pt is not just ineffective but dangerous. There's a handful of injuries you see constantly in the army because of this.(neck pain, because you pull the spine during sit ups) I work in basic training and I have seen hundreds of soldiers leave in worse shape rather then better.

There's many other minor reasons but we don't eat or train right and those two alone will lead to many issues.
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They need to have healthy alternatives to Taco Johns, Sherwood Forest Pizzas, Burger King, and Pizza joints on base.
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I love sushi, but it is $8.00+ (at the Commissary) and then you still have to buy a drink too. Tough to compete with $6.00 combo meals at Taco Bell.

But I bring both my breakfast and lunch with me to work, so I don't have to worry about that.
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agreed. I did the same cut down on costs and my waistline! I also did THOR3 which had us go through an Olympic dietitian and measure our size and then gave us a workout generated on what we were capable of and areas to improve on.
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CPL Jay Strickland
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The Dinning facility can be pretty healthy.
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They do, it's called bringing a lunch..
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The Army should deal with obese personnel the way it always has -
Train them until they meet the standard.
Counsel them to choose healthy foods and an active lifestyle
If they don't get it, throw them out.
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