Posted on Apr 27, 2014
Does Recruiting Duty, Drill Sergeant Duty and/or Small Group Leaders of NCOES schools help you get selected for Sergeant First Class?
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Just want some feedback, experiences and whatnot to see if people really get prioritized over the standard 10 year no extras naildriver, sittin in that line unit with 5 deployments and on his 5th look for SFC.
Recruiting
Drill Sergeant
Army
NCOES
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I honestly believe it's why I made this past list. I did a 3 year stint as a recruiter, dealt with all the bullshit, and left with stellar NCOERs. This year was my first look for the SFC list and I was selected with a very low sequence number. I truly believe it was the recruiting duty that led to the selection!
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MSG (Join to see)
1SG Kelley... I've heard that as well, but I'm definitely lacking in that department: 3 yrs TIG, 9 yrs TIS. You are correct about the quantifiable NCOERs though! I had suprizingly amazing leadership while in recruiting! And Rob, that's true... Forgot about my bad assery!
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1SG (Join to see)
Don't forgot how many on your list mattered as well. DS, recruiting, career counselor again is a plus. I know as an EOA for 3 years it benefited in my selection for the Master Sergeant List. Falls in the same lane as IG with regards to continuing working staff positions as a senior NCO. I tell some guys that they have to get out of their comfort zone but some hate working a desk job. I know I did the first six months
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1SG (Join to see)
MSG (Join to see) numerically speaking yes you have a low number (14). In reality though, you have the highest number on your list! There were only 14 35L SSGs selected for promotion so what 1SG (Join to see) is saying is the truth on how sequence numbers are assigned.
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LTC Mark Gavula
In order to answer your question quantifiably, I suggest asking your branch manager for the analytics on your promotion board. I know the Armor branch breaks down the TIS, duty positions, drill sergeant time, NCOER statistics to let the branch know the trends. Today, diversity in duty assignments is a plus. Don't get me wrong, you can have diversity but still be a dirt bag and not get selected for promotion.
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It's my personal opinion that it does, however reading DA PAM 600-25 for your particular CMF will specify what is considered a broadening assigment. As far as a general rule if thumb seek a mentor within you career field read every AAR for the previous boards to include SFC, MSG and SGM this will guide you a window of knowledge of what the board is looking as favorable towards progression. I however after doing all of these I did a simple test I google search images of the word Signal CSM and I read all of the bios of the CSMs in my field I also counted how many had DS badges or Recruiter badges, how many had degrees etc.... Get to know your specific CMF all the answers are within that DA PAM
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The short answer is Yes!
As a six, you need any and everything that makes you stand apart from your peers!
Going to ABIC and becoming SGL is the easier of the three. Drill Sergeant Duty is highly rewarding, but long & aggravating dealing with recruits while Recruiting duty is paper stress.
Pick your poison wisely!
As a six, you need any and everything that makes you stand apart from your peers!
Going to ABIC and becoming SGL is the easier of the three. Drill Sergeant Duty is highly rewarding, but long & aggravating dealing with recruits while Recruiting duty is paper stress.
Pick your poison wisely!
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SFC Dan Sorrow, M.S.
Because of my personality, Drill Sgt duty was much more "pleasant" than recruiting duty was. I couldn't wait to get out of recruiting and back to the Army (which I never considered recruiting to be). It sucked. I'd rather done 4 more years on the trail than 3 in recruiting.
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