Posted on Nov 5, 2015
Russian jet was 'avoiding SAM system' when it flew into Turkish airspace
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Russian jet was 'avoiding SAM system' when it flew into Turkish airspace
A Russian fighter jet that made an unauthorised incursion into Turkish airspace in October did so because the pilot was manoeuvring to break the lock of a surface-to-air missile (SAM) system, state media reported on 5 November.
The Sukhoi Su-30SM 'Flanker' was flying within Syrian airspace close to the Turkish border on 3 October when the pilot received onboard warnings that his aircraft was being targeted by an unidentified SAM system, the commander of the Russian Air Force (VVS), Colonel General Viktor Bondarev, was quoted by Komsomolskaya Pravda as saying. In manoeuvring to break the lock the pilot inadvertently strayed into Turkish airspace momentarily, the general added.
"Our fighter jet was on a combat mission in northern Syria in very dense cloud conditions. When the aircraft was passing along the Turkish border, the onboard equipment set off an alarm indicating the plane was being targeted by some kind of air defence system. The pilot had to take a split-second decision to perform an anti-missile manoeuvre. Well, [the aircraft] went a little bit into Turkish airspace. We acknowledged it frankly," Gen Bondarev is quoted as saying, adding: "This was a mistake, [our pilots] respect Turkey's borders and this will not happen again."
The incident occurred at the outset of Russia's military deployment to Syria, and prompted the Moscow's ambassador to Ankara to be summoned to the Turkish Ministry of Foreign Affairs to explain after the country's air force scrambled two F-16 fighters to intercept the intruder. At the time, NATO officials said that they did not believe the airspace violation to have been an accident.
Although Russian officials expressed their apologies over the violation in October, Turkey complained again of a second similar event just two days later, although Russia denied that any further incursion had taken place.
http://www.janes.com/article/55776/russian-jet-was-avoiding-sam-system-when-it-flew-into-turkish-airspace
A Russian fighter jet that made an unauthorised incursion into Turkish airspace in October did so because the pilot was manoeuvring to break the lock of a surface-to-air missile (SAM) system, state media reported on 5 November.
The Sukhoi Su-30SM 'Flanker' was flying within Syrian airspace close to the Turkish border on 3 October when the pilot received onboard warnings that his aircraft was being targeted by an unidentified SAM system, the commander of the Russian Air Force (VVS), Colonel General Viktor Bondarev, was quoted by Komsomolskaya Pravda as saying. In manoeuvring to break the lock the pilot inadvertently strayed into Turkish airspace momentarily, the general added.
"Our fighter jet was on a combat mission in northern Syria in very dense cloud conditions. When the aircraft was passing along the Turkish border, the onboard equipment set off an alarm indicating the plane was being targeted by some kind of air defence system. The pilot had to take a split-second decision to perform an anti-missile manoeuvre. Well, [the aircraft] went a little bit into Turkish airspace. We acknowledged it frankly," Gen Bondarev is quoted as saying, adding: "This was a mistake, [our pilots] respect Turkey's borders and this will not happen again."
The incident occurred at the outset of Russia's military deployment to Syria, and prompted the Moscow's ambassador to Ankara to be summoned to the Turkish Ministry of Foreign Affairs to explain after the country's air force scrambled two F-16 fighters to intercept the intruder. At the time, NATO officials said that they did not believe the airspace violation to have been an accident.
Although Russian officials expressed their apologies over the violation in October, Turkey complained again of a second similar event just two days later, although Russia denied that any further incursion had taken place.
http://www.janes.com/article/55776/russian-jet-was-avoiding-sam-system-when-it-flew-into-turkish-airspace
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From "The Washington Times"
Turkey shoots down Russian warplane; Russia disputes that it violated Turkish airspace
ANKARA, Turkey (AP) — Turkey shot down a Russian warplane Tuesday, claiming it had violated Turkish airspace and ignored repeated warnings. Russia denied that the plane crossed the Syrian border into Turkish skies.
“We are looking into the circumstances of the crash of the Russian jet,” Russia’s Defense Ministry said. “The Ministry of Defense would like to stress that the plane was over the Syrian territory throughout the flight.”
Russia said the Su-24 was downed by artillery fire, but Turkey claimed that its F-16s fired on the Russian plane after it ignored several warnings. The ministry said the pilots parachuted but added that Moscow had no further contact with them.
EDITORIAL COMMENT:- This, of course, is not the same incident that started the thread. It looks like things are getting interesting. A real cynic would be starting to wonder who told the Turks that it would be a good idea to shoot down Russian aircraft (after all the ISISites don't have any [known] attack jets [or any {known} pilots).
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/nov/24/report-russia-confirms-its-jet-shot-down/
Turkey shoots down Russian warplane; Russia disputes that it violated Turkish airspace
ANKARA, Turkey (AP) — Turkey shot down a Russian warplane Tuesday, claiming it had violated Turkish airspace and ignored repeated warnings. Russia denied that the plane crossed the Syrian border into Turkish skies.
“We are looking into the circumstances of the crash of the Russian jet,” Russia’s Defense Ministry said. “The Ministry of Defense would like to stress that the plane was over the Syrian territory throughout the flight.”
Russia said the Su-24 was downed by artillery fire, but Turkey claimed that its F-16s fired on the Russian plane after it ignored several warnings. The ministry said the pilots parachuted but added that Moscow had no further contact with them.
EDITORIAL COMMENT:- This, of course, is not the same incident that started the thread. It looks like things are getting interesting. A real cynic would be starting to wonder who told the Turks that it would be a good idea to shoot down Russian aircraft (after all the ISISites don't have any [known] attack jets [or any {known} pilots).
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/nov/24/report-russia-confirms-its-jet-shot-down/
Turkey confirms it shot down Russia warplane near Syria’s border
Turkey shot down a Russian warplane Tuesday, claiming it had violated Turkish airspace and ignored repeated warnings. Russia denied that the plane crossed the Syrian border into Turkish skies.
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I think the Turkey is sending out warning. I don't think maneuvering can break the "radar" lock of a SAM system. unless the SAM system is base on laser locking system or heat seeking (not sure about the heat seeking)
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I'm disappointed Janes would paerputuate the political narrative of Russia.
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COL Ted Mc
LTC (Join to see) - Major; I'd agree with you that Jane's was "PERPETUATING the political narrative of Russia" IF Jane's was stating that what the Russians were saying was true.
However, when what Jane's is doing is saying that this is what the Russians are saying then it is "REPORTING the political narrative of Russia" - which isn't the same thing at all.
However, when what Jane's is doing is saying that this is what the Russians are saying then it is "REPORTING the political narrative of Russia" - which isn't the same thing at all.
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