Posted on Oct 28, 2015
Is it unethical to use a personal rewards (gas) card, when filling up a government vehicle?
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Soldiers are told to use the NCOs personal rewards card, when filling up a government vehicle.
NCO Creed
Motor Sergeant
Ethics
Posted 9 y ago
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I would certainly ask higher to better get answers, but from a personal standpoint, telling soldiers to use the NCO's personal card so the NCO can get the points is (again at least to me) unethical.
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MAJ (Join to see)
"no one is more professional than I ... I am proud of the Corps of noncommissioned officers and will at all times conduct myself so as to bring credit upon the Corps, the military service and my country regardless of the situation in which I find myself. I WILL NOT USE MY GRADE OR POSITION TO ATTAIN PLEASURE, PROFIT, OR PERSONAL SAFETY."
Yep that covers it.
Using a personal card to obtain points especially if the gas station offers a discount would be encouraged due to the cost saving it provides to the tax payer, using your superior's personal card is a clear communication of that superior's lack of moral ethics and failure to demonstrate selfless service.
Yep that covers it.
Using a personal card to obtain points especially if the gas station offers a discount would be encouraged due to the cost saving it provides to the tax payer, using your superior's personal card is a clear communication of that superior's lack of moral ethics and failure to demonstrate selfless service.
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This goes back to the OLD argument about "Frequent Flyer Miles" when using Government Travel.
Who do the Miles belong to? Simple answer is the Government. Any reward based program follows the same philosophy.
I realize that rules have changed which specifically "allow" service members to use those miles/points/etc, but that does not mean they belong to them. The points were earned using government funds, and as such belong to the government. Unless there is a specific policy that mentions the reward program, assume it is disallowed, and therefore unethical.
Who do the Miles belong to? Simple answer is the Government. Any reward based program follows the same philosophy.
I realize that rules have changed which specifically "allow" service members to use those miles/points/etc, but that does not mean they belong to them. The points were earned using government funds, and as such belong to the government. Unless there is a specific policy that mentions the reward program, assume it is disallowed, and therefore unethical.
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
SFC Michael Hasbun - That is a RECENT change (within last 10 years), and specifically "allowed" by regulation. The situation as presented has its roots in the time before the regulations changed to allow it.
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SFC Michael Hasbun
The situation as presented has nothing to do with DTS or flyer miles. I was referring to your example only. As far as the actual OP, I agree with you, but my rationale is "if you have to ask, it's probably wrong". If I were him, I'd ask the S-4.
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
SFC Michael Hasbun - The situation as presented absolutely has roots in the "reward incentive programs" like frequent flyer miles (the original program). 20~ years ago the number of programs available could be counted on a single hand. Now there are countless.
You have to look at historical ROOTS of the issue to understand how they apply today. The OPs question has EVERYTHING to do with frequent flyer miles. Rewards earned on the government dime belong to the government. The government allows you to use specific benefits by name.
You have to look at historical ROOTS of the issue to understand how they apply today. The OPs question has EVERYTHING to do with frequent flyer miles. Rewards earned on the government dime belong to the government. The government allows you to use specific benefits by name.
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MAJ (Join to see)
It is OK to use personal rewards program, especially if it saves the tax payers money. It is never ok to require subordinates to use your own personal card.
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It is not unethical if it is you and your car. If it is someone else directly you to use their card it is unethical.
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LTC (Join to see)
1SG (Join to see) - I should say your car or your rental. Not someone else's rental.
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SA Harold Hansmann
I wouldn't use my own card when filling a government vehicle let alone someone else's card.
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