Posted on Oct 16, 2015
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As the military doesn't just let you expand your military resume at will would it make sense to allow service members to cross train and acquire multiple MOS's within their functional area much like officers can and do. For example in the Army service member with 11B and 11C would convert to a FA11. As this would allow service members to expand their skill set they would be subject to a higher functional area pay rate. I know service members can have a primary as well secondary duties but often they are unrelated due to reclassification and or jumping branches. Additional this could be used in the promotion points. The only problem I could see is this would result in filling 2 slots with one individual.
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Edited 9 y ago
Posted 9 y ago
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Absolutely not. We are paid by our grade, which should be an equalizer with experience. So you end up with 4 MOS's and end up with no experience in any of them, because you were in school or OJT all the time. Just my thoughts.
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SPC Christopher Perrien
SPC David S. - Yes, IMO, Getting rid of the higher Spec ranks was the worst thing the Army has done in the past 30 years. They lose about half their best people out of the 1 hitchers because of it. It was done because they thought they could retain people better as NCO's, since some attached more prestige to being an NCO i.e. (a leader, compared to being a high ranking specialist.
Bad idea, for five reasons
1) some people want to concentrate on their specialty and not babysit enlisted and write evals and counseling statements
2) It caused too many sergeants in technical positions and less people to get the job done.
3) there is no need for that many sergeants in line formations ,example. 3 sergeants and one private on a tank is flat out stupid. As is 3 sergeants telling one private what to do
4) about half of the sergeants, since everybody becomes one , are crap at being a NCO and should not/cannot be leaders, yet clog up the whole ranking structure.
5)The lost good people for each and everyone of these reasons.
And finally , they lost me because of it. And I know when I got out, I was one of the best Tankers the Army had. Loved the job, hated the BS.
Bad idea, for five reasons
1) some people want to concentrate on their specialty and not babysit enlisted and write evals and counseling statements
2) It caused too many sergeants in technical positions and less people to get the job done.
3) there is no need for that many sergeants in line formations ,example. 3 sergeants and one private on a tank is flat out stupid. As is 3 sergeants telling one private what to do
4) about half of the sergeants, since everybody becomes one , are crap at being a NCO and should not/cannot be leaders, yet clog up the whole ranking structure.
5)The lost good people for each and everyone of these reasons.
And finally , they lost me because of it. And I know when I got out, I was one of the best Tankers the Army had. Loved the job, hated the BS.
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SPC David S.
So I'm not crazy for thinking this? Good to know - no slots meant looking for slots and opportunities else where. Seems their logic prevented people from becoming experts in technical fields and thus now give out rank for these MOS's - To me that's not a good idea as NCO is more about leadership than technical proficiency.
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No. They are several skill levels in each MOS. Being a 10 skill level in several does not compare to being a 40 in one. Now if someone was a 40 level in more than one I could see a bonus for that.
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No, that would encourage service members to switch specialties instead of concentrating on improving their skills and knowledge SPC David S.
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SPC David S.
LTC Stephen F. what if the MOS or additional skills were related to their current specialty 13D then learn 13F or 13B in the field. This would I think increase mobility of a service member. Not vertically but more laterally thus the pay raise with no rank. The additional skills would have to be related to their specialty. If you're field artillery you can't go off and become infantry. It would have to be a field artillery related MOS.
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LTC Stephen F.
SPC David S. I know that in the US Army there are certain MOS's already which have E-5 or E-6 as the highest grade - tends to be in technical fields. In those cases soldiers are encouraged to branch transfer to the MOS which has supervisory responsibilities over their previous MOS and allows for advancement.
I know that in the past 15 years FA reserve component units were sent overseas to perform infantry and convoy security duty as a unit. They received training and hazardous duty pay because they were deployed to a combat zone.
Right now there is hazardous duty pay, jump pay, special duty pay, etc. I have added a hyperlink which provided information on all sorts of pay types.
http://myarmybenefits.us.army.mil/Home/Benefit_Library/Federal_Benefits_Page.html
I know that in the past 15 years FA reserve component units were sent overseas to perform infantry and convoy security duty as a unit. They received training and hazardous duty pay because they were deployed to a combat zone.
Right now there is hazardous duty pay, jump pay, special duty pay, etc. I have added a hyperlink which provided information on all sorts of pay types.
http://myarmybenefits.us.army.mil/Home/Benefit_Library/Federal_Benefits_Page.html
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SPC David S.
Looks like the Army covers this with a one time bonus for high demand or education requirements. Smart move by the Army as to prevent a residual payment. However sense 13B, D and F are in high demand let some supper trooper go to all as this would allow the service member fill in for multiple slots if needed. Looks like the 13 series would be the one benefiting from this. Maybe 94 as well.
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