Posted on Oct 9, 2015
What can be written on an NCOER concerning failure to maintain height/weight standards?
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According to DA PAM 623-3, when noncompliance with height/weight standards is not met, the rater should indicate the reason for noncompliance. What do you put if you don't really know the reason? For example, what if the soldier simply failed to balance his calorie intake with regular exercise. Can one simply say:
o Soldier failed to meet height and weight standards of AR 600-9 without known cause?
This task has been made more difficult because the Soldier is a pending loss to new unit in a different state and I am trying to do his Change of Rater. Due to the gaps in time that are common in The Reserves, I have not talked to the Soldier since he relocated. He did not provide any reason during his height/weight counseling either.
Suggestions?
o Soldier failed to meet height and weight standards of AR 600-9 without known cause?
This task has been made more difficult because the Soldier is a pending loss to new unit in a different state and I am trying to do his Change of Rater. Due to the gaps in time that are common in The Reserves, I have not talked to the Soldier since he relocated. He did not provide any reason during his height/weight counseling either.
Suggestions?
Posted 9 y ago
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The "reason" cited in DA PAM 623-3 is something that is an extenuating circumstance, such as inability to exercise due to injuries from an accident. It is not for you to make excuses for the Soldier, nor to say something compelling (albeit satisfying) such as "failed to meet ht/wt standards due to poor consumption/combustion ratio".
An appropriate comment without such an extenuation is:
o failed to meet ht/wt standards; currently on the Army Body Composition Program and is (or is not) making satisfactory progress
"Satisfactory progress" is defined as 3-8 pounds or 1% body fat per month per AR 600-9.
An appropriate comment without such an extenuation is:
o failed to meet ht/wt standards; currently on the Army Body Composition Program and is (or is not) making satisfactory progress
"Satisfactory progress" is defined as 3-8 pounds or 1% body fat per month per AR 600-9.
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That's terrible, SFC David Starr. I'm glad the CSM was able to get you help, but the rest of that story is straight bull$#!t and I would have a serious case of the ass if one of my Soldiers was treated like that.
How are you doing today?
How are you doing today?
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SFC David Starr
I was released this morning from Miami VA today where I had Spinal cord Surgery related to an injury sustained on Active duty. I was in a vehicle that flipped sideways off a hill when a new 2nd LT who was senior Occupant lost his ground guide and drove my 577 off a hill/ cliff. I got worse over the years knew I needed surgery fought the VA for 5 years. and got a measure of relief today. This may have also helped my constant chest pains from the spasm's my Diaphragm has given me since 2001. I haven't had one pain since I woke up from surgery.
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SFC David Starr
Thanks, It's been a long road. I am thankful for the time I was able to serve. I was pissed for a few years but I don't hold on to grudges. I have a lot of great friends who worked with me and for me that were able to continue their careers and make E-8. I know I had a small part in helping them get there. They serve at the VA and at Ft. Sill test facilities and across the country. They have all contacted me overnight. It's a family if your cared for your troops. They pass it on!
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