Posted on Sep 29, 2015
Congressman Demands Navy Secretary's Resignation over Women in Combat. Do you agree or disagree?
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The way Mabus threw the Corps under the bus leaves a bad taste in my mouth. His priority should be the welfare of the services he runs, and to so blatantly disregard a field study because he didn't like the results is little more than cronyism, imo. So I'm glad to see this, though I doubt anything will come of it. What do you think?
And just to be clear, my angst in this issue has nothing to do with women in combat, and everything to do with a Service Secretary completely ignoring and undermining senior military leadership.
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2015/09/18/congressman-demands-navy-secretarys-resignation-women-in-combat.html
And just to be clear, my angst in this issue has nothing to do with women in combat, and everything to do with a Service Secretary completely ignoring and undermining senior military leadership.
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2015/09/18/congressman-demands-navy-secretarys-resignation-women-in-combat.html
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The secretary should have been gone since naming a warship after congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords. I have no problem with women in combat as long as it doesn't distract from unit efficiency and combat effectiveness. I actually think it's an inevitably at this point. My issue is with the secretary's judgement. Too many of his initiatives seem politically motivated and not based on what's best for the USN/USMC.
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SN Greg Wright
PO1 (Join to see) Oh, PO1 don't get me started on that. Naming a warship after someone who did nothing more than get shot? Who is simply a victim? When there's brave men and women DYING overseas?
Grrrrrr
Grrrrrr
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SecNav spoke badly, and pissed A LOT of people off. He pissed A LOT of Marines off. Marines are very good a evolving. Very good at following direction from above. If SecDef says "All Combat Positions will be opened, unless an exemption is requested" we will follow that to the letter.
And that's exactly what happened.
What we're seeing now is the proverbial moving of the goalposts. It's a betrayal of the Senior/Subordinate relationship. And it's something SecNav doesn't even realize he's done.
And that's exactly what happened.
What we're seeing now is the proverbial moving of the goalposts. It's a betrayal of the Senior/Subordinate relationship. And it's something SecNav doesn't even realize he's done.
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SN Greg Wright
Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS It's unfortunate that he will never see this, because I don't think it could be said any better. I'd give you all my upvotes if I could.
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Women a already in combat! May be not in combat arms, but they are in direct action with the enemy at some point in both AO's. We had female medic on our patrol team in 1-125FA in Iraq! Still don't see the big deal. Let the female service just like us males. If they want combat arm let them, but be careful what you ask for!
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SN Greg Wright thanks for the tag on this. I went back and looked at what I thought was information on the study and realized it was a very very biased news outlet. I will not link the article because it was misleading. I thought I was reading a couple of facts that were an opinion/guess.
Appreciate the info Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
Appreciate the info Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
http://cdn.sandiegouniontrib.com/news/documents/2015/09/10/MCFIP_1.pdf
LCDR (Join to see) Here's the actual summary. Waiting for final report to come out, so I can dive into the data.
LCDR (Join to see) Here's the actual summary. Waiting for final report to come out, so I can dive into the data.
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SN Greg Wright
Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS - Wow, that is, hands-down, the best empirical data I've seen on the subject. I strongly suggest you post a thread showing that, and discussing it.
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SN Greg Wright I'm holding off until the Final Report comes out. This is just the summary, which without context may be misleading. It's good data, but it's Clif Notes.
We need more to make it truly valuable.
We need more to make it truly valuable.
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