Posted on Sep 29, 2015
What's your Perspective on Handling of classified materials?
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What's your Perspective on Handling of classified materials?
There have been several discussions around this subject, but I consider this different based on current events and the comparison drawn by the author Ken Cuccinelli throughout his perspective/article. You don't have to agree or disagree and I'm not taking the author's or anyone's side on this issue. Just read for yourself and draw your own conclusions.
Your feedback is solicited?
Ken Cuccinelli is president of Senate Conservatives Fund and the former attorney general of Virginia.
There is no link - the complete perspective is here for you to read:
September 27, 2015 | 9:16pm
Since there has been much evasion and obfuscation about Hillary Rodham Clinton’s email use, it seems appropriate to step back and simply review what we know in light of the law. It’s also instructive to compare Clinton’s situation to arguably the most famous case of our time related to the improper handling of classified materials, namely, the case of Gen. David Petraeus.
Instead of turning his journals — so-called “black books” — over to the Defense Department or CIA when he left either of those organizations, Petraeus kept them at his home — an unsecure location — and provided them to his paramour/biographer, Paula Broadwell, at another private residence. (None of the classified information in the black books was used in his biography.)
On April 23, Petraeus pled guilty to a single misdemeanor charge of unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents or materials under 18 USC §1924. Many in the intelligence community were outraged at the perceived “slap on the wrist” he received, at a time when the Justice Department was seeking very strong penalties against lesser officials for leaks to the media.
According to the law, there are five elements that must be met for a violation of the statute, and they can all be found in section (a) of the statute: “(1) Whoever, being an officer, employee, contractor, or consultant of the United States, and, (2) by virtue of his office, employment, position, or contract, becomes possessed of documents or materials containing classified information of the United States, (3) knowingly removes such documents or materials (4) without authority and (5) with the intent to retain such documents or materials at an unauthorized location [shall be guilty of this offense].”
The Petraeus case meets those conditions. Does Clinton’s?
Clinton originally denied that any of her emails contained classified information, but soon abandoned that claim. So far, 150 emails containing classified information have been identified on her server, including two that included information determined to be Top Secret.
She then fell back on the claim that none of the emails in question was “marked classified” at the time she was dealing with them. The marking is not what makes the material classified; it’s the nature of the information itself. As secretary of state, Clinton knew this, and in fact she would have been re-briefed annually on this point as a condition of maintaining her clearance to access classified information.
Then there’s location. Clinton knowingly set up her email system to route 100 percent of her emails to and through her unsecured server (including keeping copies stored on the server). She knowingly removed such documents and materials from authorized locations (her authorized devices and secure government networks) to an unauthorized location (her server).
Two examples demonstrate this point.
When Clinton would draft an email based on classified information, she was drafting that email on an authorized Blackberry, iPad or computer. But when she hit “send,” that email was knowingly routed to her unsecured server — an unauthorized location — for both storage and transfer.
Additionally, when Clinton moved the server to Platte River Networks (a private company) in June 2013, and then again when she transferred the contents of the server to her private lawyers in 2014, the classified materials were in each instance again removed to another unsecured location.
Next we have the lack of proper authority to move or hold classified information somewhere, i.e., the “unauthorized location.”
While it’s possible for a private residence to be an “authorized” location, and it’s also possible for non-government servers and networks to be “authorized” to house and transfer classified materials, there are specific and stringent requirements to achieve such status. Simply being secretary of state didn’t allow Clinton to authorize herself to deviate from the requirements of retaining and transmitting classified documents, materials and information.
There is no known evidence that her arrangement to use the private email server in her home was undertaken with proper authority.
Finally, there’s the intent to “retain” the classified documents or materials at an unauthorized location.
The very purpose of Clinton’s server was to intentionally retain documents and materials — all emails and attachments — on the server in her house, including classified materials.
The intent required is only to undertake the action, i.e., to retain the classified documents and materials in the unauthorized fashion addressed in this statute. That’s it.
It borders on inconceivable that Clinton didn’t know that the emails she received, and more obviously, the emails that she created, stored and sent with the server, would contain classified information.
Simply put, Mrs. Clinton is already in just as bad — or worse — of a legal situation than Petraeus faced.
Does this mean she’ll be charged? FBI Director James Comey has a long history of ignoring political pressure. So it’s likely that the FBI will recommend prosecution, and then it will be up to President Obama’s Justice Department to decide whether to proceed. Stay tuned.
There have been several discussions around this subject, but I consider this different based on current events and the comparison drawn by the author Ken Cuccinelli throughout his perspective/article. You don't have to agree or disagree and I'm not taking the author's or anyone's side on this issue. Just read for yourself and draw your own conclusions.
Your feedback is solicited?
Ken Cuccinelli is president of Senate Conservatives Fund and the former attorney general of Virginia.
There is no link - the complete perspective is here for you to read:
September 27, 2015 | 9:16pm
Since there has been much evasion and obfuscation about Hillary Rodham Clinton’s email use, it seems appropriate to step back and simply review what we know in light of the law. It’s also instructive to compare Clinton’s situation to arguably the most famous case of our time related to the improper handling of classified materials, namely, the case of Gen. David Petraeus.
Instead of turning his journals — so-called “black books” — over to the Defense Department or CIA when he left either of those organizations, Petraeus kept them at his home — an unsecure location — and provided them to his paramour/biographer, Paula Broadwell, at another private residence. (None of the classified information in the black books was used in his biography.)
On April 23, Petraeus pled guilty to a single misdemeanor charge of unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents or materials under 18 USC §1924. Many in the intelligence community were outraged at the perceived “slap on the wrist” he received, at a time when the Justice Department was seeking very strong penalties against lesser officials for leaks to the media.
According to the law, there are five elements that must be met for a violation of the statute, and they can all be found in section (a) of the statute: “(1) Whoever, being an officer, employee, contractor, or consultant of the United States, and, (2) by virtue of his office, employment, position, or contract, becomes possessed of documents or materials containing classified information of the United States, (3) knowingly removes such documents or materials (4) without authority and (5) with the intent to retain such documents or materials at an unauthorized location [shall be guilty of this offense].”
The Petraeus case meets those conditions. Does Clinton’s?
Clinton originally denied that any of her emails contained classified information, but soon abandoned that claim. So far, 150 emails containing classified information have been identified on her server, including two that included information determined to be Top Secret.
She then fell back on the claim that none of the emails in question was “marked classified” at the time she was dealing with them. The marking is not what makes the material classified; it’s the nature of the information itself. As secretary of state, Clinton knew this, and in fact she would have been re-briefed annually on this point as a condition of maintaining her clearance to access classified information.
Then there’s location. Clinton knowingly set up her email system to route 100 percent of her emails to and through her unsecured server (including keeping copies stored on the server). She knowingly removed such documents and materials from authorized locations (her authorized devices and secure government networks) to an unauthorized location (her server).
Two examples demonstrate this point.
When Clinton would draft an email based on classified information, she was drafting that email on an authorized Blackberry, iPad or computer. But when she hit “send,” that email was knowingly routed to her unsecured server — an unauthorized location — for both storage and transfer.
Additionally, when Clinton moved the server to Platte River Networks (a private company) in June 2013, and then again when she transferred the contents of the server to her private lawyers in 2014, the classified materials were in each instance again removed to another unsecured location.
Next we have the lack of proper authority to move or hold classified information somewhere, i.e., the “unauthorized location.”
While it’s possible for a private residence to be an “authorized” location, and it’s also possible for non-government servers and networks to be “authorized” to house and transfer classified materials, there are specific and stringent requirements to achieve such status. Simply being secretary of state didn’t allow Clinton to authorize herself to deviate from the requirements of retaining and transmitting classified documents, materials and information.
There is no known evidence that her arrangement to use the private email server in her home was undertaken with proper authority.
Finally, there’s the intent to “retain” the classified documents or materials at an unauthorized location.
The very purpose of Clinton’s server was to intentionally retain documents and materials — all emails and attachments — on the server in her house, including classified materials.
The intent required is only to undertake the action, i.e., to retain the classified documents and materials in the unauthorized fashion addressed in this statute. That’s it.
It borders on inconceivable that Clinton didn’t know that the emails she received, and more obviously, the emails that she created, stored and sent with the server, would contain classified information.
Simply put, Mrs. Clinton is already in just as bad — or worse — of a legal situation than Petraeus faced.
Does this mean she’ll be charged? FBI Director James Comey has a long history of ignoring political pressure. So it’s likely that the FBI will recommend prosecution, and then it will be up to President Obama’s Justice Department to decide whether to proceed. Stay tuned.
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The former first lady and Secretary of State is NOT above the laws of this nation. I call BS if she thinks the Clinton's get a pass on mishandling of classified documents. It doesn't matter what were in those documents. There are procedures in how we protect our Nations secrets. Its about pieces of information that can be put together by someone leading to the source of that "information" or "intelligence".
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SFC (Join to see)
She is a liar. She has built her life on lies. She lies to herself that "what difference does it make" is suppose to mean something when 4 American lives were lost.
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Classified materials must always be safeguarded COL Mikel J. Burroughs
While the different federal agencies have different classification systems, proper safeguarding in the office, while traveling and at home is critical.
I think the evidence should be reviewed by only people with sufficient and relevant clearance.
Since Hillary Rodham Clinton is the wife of a former President I know she has secret service protection and that there are "places: where Presidential level materiel is "reviewed" wherever He happens to be.
I do not expect this level of information to be revealed; but, Mrs Clinton was probably under secret service protection when she was sending these emails from wherever.
Hopefully sufficient truth will be revealed in these matters.
While the different federal agencies have different classification systems, proper safeguarding in the office, while traveling and at home is critical.
I think the evidence should be reviewed by only people with sufficient and relevant clearance.
Since Hillary Rodham Clinton is the wife of a former President I know she has secret service protection and that there are "places: where Presidential level materiel is "reviewed" wherever He happens to be.
I do not expect this level of information to be revealed; but, Mrs Clinton was probably under secret service protection when she was sending these emails from wherever.
Hopefully sufficient truth will be revealed in these matters.
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LTC Stephen F.
PO1 Robert Payne - actually I generally concur with you. I am hopeful that there will be thorough investigation and that the results will be released late next summer so they will be fresh in voters minds :-)
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SPC Christopher Perrien
Read this through, it gets best at the end.
She had no authorization to use a non-government agency to handle government info at her own level, only info below her level, of which she could as her office allows.
More to the point, she cannot transfer info on her own level , except to the cabinet and the POTUS and VP. A private business with their server in an unused toilet is not at that level.
Hillary Clinton received E-mails as a consequence of her station and office, far removed and only entitle to be held by the US gov. Not some bs server provider in Denver.
The Secretary of State of this country is the 2nd man in the 2 man system of control of nuclear weapons and their authorization of use and launch for this country. The two man rule is maintained at all levels of the security and use of nuclear arms. These 2 people along with the rest of the immediate chain of command are constantly tracked by the NSA, to maintain constant control of the nukes , any person at this level is notified and advised where other member are and what their schedule is. Not many of these same people at that level can be at the same place at the same time, otherwise the chain of command for use of nuclear weapons could be compromised. Such info is the highest level of classified info in this country and is transmitted and guides the movements of all of our highest leaders. This of course is done by secure government communication by E-mail.
Anyone who thinks HRC did not receive highly classified E-Emails on a DAILY basis, and these ILLEGALLY went through this little firm in Denver, does not understand government commo or the implications of security commo systems at all.
She, I gather, was doing it to cover profiteering of the Clinton Foundation charity organization, which prolly made her and her Husband billions, no big deal since that is only money, although trashy people such as herself may think so. But her giving away or even merely risking the security of this country's nuclear capabilities/arsenal is an inexcusable crime.
She had no authorization to use a non-government agency to handle government info at her own level, only info below her level, of which she could as her office allows.
More to the point, she cannot transfer info on her own level , except to the cabinet and the POTUS and VP. A private business with their server in an unused toilet is not at that level.
Hillary Clinton received E-mails as a consequence of her station and office, far removed and only entitle to be held by the US gov. Not some bs server provider in Denver.
The Secretary of State of this country is the 2nd man in the 2 man system of control of nuclear weapons and their authorization of use and launch for this country. The two man rule is maintained at all levels of the security and use of nuclear arms. These 2 people along with the rest of the immediate chain of command are constantly tracked by the NSA, to maintain constant control of the nukes , any person at this level is notified and advised where other member are and what their schedule is. Not many of these same people at that level can be at the same place at the same time, otherwise the chain of command for use of nuclear weapons could be compromised. Such info is the highest level of classified info in this country and is transmitted and guides the movements of all of our highest leaders. This of course is done by secure government communication by E-mail.
Anyone who thinks HRC did not receive highly classified E-Emails on a DAILY basis, and these ILLEGALLY went through this little firm in Denver, does not understand government commo or the implications of security commo systems at all.
She, I gather, was doing it to cover profiteering of the Clinton Foundation charity organization, which prolly made her and her Husband billions, no big deal since that is only money, although trashy people such as herself may think so. But her giving away or even merely risking the security of this country's nuclear capabilities/arsenal is an inexcusable crime.
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