Posted on Oct 7, 2017
What AFI covers safety, as far as living standards?
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My first troop is coming in at the end of this month. I have recently found out that the dorm she is going to be in doesn't have toilets that flush. Supposedly, according to the other airmen that have lived in them longer, this has already been brought up and it hasn't been fixed or able to be fixed because it is the entire dorm building with exception to a few toilets in the halls. Somehow this doesn't seem legit to me. How can you house approximately 96 airmen in a dorm building with only three properly working community toilets? Is there an AFI or some sort of regulation published that discusses what is or isn't required for standards of living in military housing?
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32EX: Civil Engineer
8H000: Airman Dorm Leader
Posted 7 y ago
Responses: 8
TSgt Melissa Post
I cant answer specific to AF regulations and procedures as they will differ than what I know in the Army.
BUT I will say there is a path to follow no doubt.
Who manages the dorm, Military? Civilian contractor? Mix?
Id say do the leg work......how many rooms, how many have working/ non working toilets.
Have there been traceable work orders summited?. or just complaints? If paper or digital work orders have been submitted, by who, to who and when?
Taking all that to leadership is a great start..making it "easy" for them to action.. The easer you make it, the more likely they are to forward and do so.
I cant answer specific to AF regulations and procedures as they will differ than what I know in the Army.
BUT I will say there is a path to follow no doubt.
Who manages the dorm, Military? Civilian contractor? Mix?
Id say do the leg work......how many rooms, how many have working/ non working toilets.
Have there been traceable work orders summited?. or just complaints? If paper or digital work orders have been submitted, by who, to who and when?
Taking all that to leadership is a great start..making it "easy" for them to action.. The easer you make it, the more likely they are to forward and do so.
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TSgt Melissa Post
Thank you for the help. It is military and I know there are NCOs in charge of Dorm Management our Major only just heard about this issue yesterday, which is when I heard about it too. I cannot help but wonder why none of the Airmen have said anything until now but I suppose that is another rabbit trail for later. Unfortunately we only have about five people in this entire building but I can have the four that actually live there ask around to the other Airmen and go from there.
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MSgt John McGowan
Why did it take it so long to be reported. And the Major finding about it first. And what happened to the 1st SGTs. But with a little checking and a lot of work I am sure you will be ready. Hang in there.
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Never and I mean Never go by hearsay..........a good supervisor will go and check it out. If this is true go to your first sergeant. He/She is the rep for the dorm residents to the commander on these issues. Normally a situation like this would be involving a Command Chiefs attention. I may have been retired for 10 years now but the saying "take care of the people and the people will take care of the mission" should be still around I would think?
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TSgt Melissa Post
I agree. That is why I am trying to do my research a bit before she gets here. I know I can't and shouldn't solve all her problems but I want to make sure when presented with them I have a good foundation of where to go. Especially if I am being given a headstart on a potential problem. If it is true that there are more than the ones just recently brought to light, I believe I will sit down and chat with our shirt. Thank you for that insight!
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