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As many of you know I returned from Africa (deployment number four) to my beloved wife of over fifteen years and three young children this past September. It was apparent that something was not right immediately. She was irritable, reacted strongly to any perceived slight, and gave me the cold shoulder. She lived in her cell phone, playing an online game she is very active in chatting in for over six hours a day. I gave her space at first, but we had been planning a trip together to Spain in order to reconnect and recharge. When I asked her about her arrangements to cover her job, she told me she didn't want to go anymore. She had REALLY wanted to go just two months earlier. When pressed, she told me she was unhappy for years and wasn't sure she wanted to be together anymore.

Thinking it was a funk, I tried to help her unwind. I delayed returning to work so I could help around the house more. I facilitated her sleeping in. Every step I took, she let go of more. Now she does next to nothing to help with the kids or the house's upkeep. She is now neglectful enough towards the kids that I no longer trust her alone for any length of time. I have had to do it all, and since I have not been the primary caregiver this is stressful for all. I am willing, just not as good at it as she was.

In October, I discovered that she had not paid a bill since July when I got a notice delivered to the door. I then found over a month's worth of mail in the box. Sorting through it, I discovered over $13,000 in credit card debt I did not know about. We have nothing to show for this expenditure, and I have no idea where it went. Today I discovered she had another card with another $14k on it that she had been concealing by hiding the statements in the mail and setting up an auto-pay for the minimum. The first amount ate most of what I had saved from being deployed, the new amount is more than we can afford.

She will not talk to me, and issues threats if I persist or try to reason with her. She has resisted the idea of counseling, and appears to have had her mind made up already to leave, until she realized she can't make it on her own and her parents are not willing to take her plus three kids in. Now we are circling the drain.

I am still in love with her, and frankly do not see a way to make it work financially or for the good of the kids if we split. 50/50 custody has been floated, but that means both of us need lodgings suitable for three mixed-gender kids - three bedrooms at minimum. She wants space.
I have ruled out an affair, I think. My trust is crippled due to the lying and concealment of the finances. I should have been more alert to the problem, but she lied to me. I want to work this out, because the alternatives are all terrible. I have told her that I am unwilling to give up on us, and if she wants a divorce, she will have to do it and own the decision. The only thing we have been able to fully agree on is that the children will not be employed as a weapon. So far, that truce has held.
What makes this even more difficult is that this was a complete surprise. She has told me there is nothing I can do to change her mind. I am heartbroken.

My current plan is to enlist support from her circle of friends and close relatives, banking that most (I know not all) will see what is the best outcome and encourage her to come to her senses and work on things. I have been successful with her mother and our closest mutual friend so far, and will continue to make the rounds over the holidays. She might not listen to me, but the group might just be enough, I hope.

My courses of action in the event she pulls the pin are:
1. (What everyone says): share custody and try to get along for the sake of the children.
Truly, I do not think this will work. I do not think I have the strength to take the high road. As much as I love her, it will go the other way if she unilaterally destroys our life together. I will not be able to forgive this, not ever. I think this will go bad and will turn into full custody to her, with me being a convenient on-call babysitter. This is no way to live. I had that when my parents broke up when I was a little younger than my oldest daughter.
2. Go as far away as possible, cut most ties to my current life, and try to start over. I know what this will mean for my children and my relationship with them, but I think this has the highest chance of preserving my sanity. I would rather live with regret than slowly die from the inside.
3. Self-destructive behavior. I am a responsible, level-headed man, but this situation has me seriously considering bad options. Read into that if you want. I am in big trouble, and have taken steps to prevent an impulsive decision, but I am afraid for my own sanity.
For those who might be concerned, I will not ever raise a hand against those I love, but she blames this all on me, and I know that the points she makes are valid, so I blame myself too - even if I know better

I am willing to listen to any advice anyone has. Please be constructive.
I realize that I am really exposing myself here, but I could use anything the community has. Many of you may have been through something similar. I value any and all input.

UPDATE-
So, this whole business has taken quite a few turns since December.
I have since then discovered that all of this is not my fault. She has some serious issues.
I found out that the financial situation was even worse than I had surmised. I am on a path to remedy that, but it cost me over $100k.
She has in fact decided to leave.
As it stands, we are attempting to make a deal that would account for both our needs, and trying (with occasional success) to keep the hurt feelings out of it. As it stands, I will be a single father most of the time. That is a challenge that I relish, but did not account for. I am not afraid to say that I am scared.
So long as we can stay level-headed, I think that this will turn out OK.
Except for the fact I am losing the love of my life, of course.

Some advice:
If your wife says things like "it seems like you don't listen to me" or "we don't seem to talk anymore", STOP WHAT YOU ARE DOING AND LISTEN. She is telling you things without telling you things, and resents you for not reading her cues.
If there is distance between you, close it. Don't give her "space". Be available. Listen a lot. If she wants to be alone, don't chase her, but set up a time/date to reengage. Space equals distance. Distance equals growing apart. Growing apart equals divorce. Don't let it happen. It sucks. A lot.
If she is lying to you, there is a reason why... and it may well have nothing to do with the subject matter. Don't get angry at the lie, get after the reason why the lie happened. I would wager on avoidance.

I am heartbroken, but I will be OK. It will just take a very long time to come to grips with how I failed at the most important job I ever had. I wouldn't wish this on anyone.
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1SG Healy, I want to help. I used to drill in Arden Hills and I live 10 miles from there. I'm happy to meet for coffee to listen and offer some possible suggestions. My first suggestion is Strong Bonds. I have attended three SB events: once as couples participants and twice as the guest speaker. They are excellent and I can highly recommend them. There is a couples event coming up in St Louis on 1/23-1/25 and the closing date for registration is 1/01 at:

https://www.strongbonds.org/skins/strongbonds/display.aspx?moduleid=702a5bf0-3144-49e4-8579-08bd68ee1d23&action=event_information&hl_0=6a7dc9c7-5d17-46df-a4ce-f85c2a55244c&ProgramID=6dbdb944-78f6-4c22-93f8-ac7dd78ce3b8&ConferenceID=cb296aa5-f1c9-4e22-b0bd-6981c0f6a280.

You can call me directly at [login to see] over the holidays if you would like to get together. Sincerely, BGB
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A true leader God bless you sir!
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MG Peter Bosse
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There are no easy answers in a situation like this. These are real people going through a wide spectrum of emotions during difficult and challenging times. We should all pray for this family that they may find the solution that works best for them. Resilience is defined as the ability to bounce back from adversity. During these turbulent times, remember to "put in in perspective" and know that you have Battle Buddies ready to step up and help in any way they can. You are not alone and your Army family is here for you. Merry Christmas!
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MG Peter Bosse Way to go Sir. Thank you for extending the offer to 1SG (Join to see) We as leaders know that we have to look out for the Troops. We as Troops have to know that our Leaders have our backs as we sacrifice all that we have. You are a shining star of that example, personified.

Thank you, makes me proud to be associated with a military where a General Officer is of the character, disposition and belief, that "soldiers matter". I know that you need no validation from me. But on behalf of NCOs across the service, Thank you for that, it means something.

1SG (Join to see) I have walked in your shoes brother. 18 years of marriage and a wonderful daughter. World turned upside down and beaten against the "curb". If you need someone to talk with who has been there, gone to counseling and done everything to save the marriage.........feel free to message. I am by no means the resident expert, but I do have the T-shirt and common ground.
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BG Pete Bosse...All I can say is "WOW"...Many people "talk the talk". But you Sir truly "walk the walk". You are a great example of our military family.
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RallyPoint -
I am overwhelmed by how many good people have written to me from around the world. All night long. Undoubtedly, when all of you wake up this morning before your Christmas Eve festivities, a downpour of support will happen. People are so good when given an opportunity to show it.

I have a request.
I may be far away, but somewhere much closer to where you are is someone like me, facing something impossible. It is not a Merry Christmas for everyone. Find them. Do something kind. You might just be the last line of defense and not know it.
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If you can get the time the book Love and Respect goes tenfold in understanding disconnect in marriages. Highly recommended. Praying for your family @1SG JERRY HEALY
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1SG (Join to see) Thank you for having the courage to reach out. We must be more vigilant towards those who aren't voicing these struggles. You provided a real example that many of us will be able to relate to and know we aren't alone. Thank you for bringing a human element to this community and allowing our military family to help. You can add me to the list of those that are supporting you (day or night). Anytime, anywhere, please know I'm here as well.
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Prayers to you Brother!
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1SG (Join to see): Regarding your GI Bill... You do not have to give the entire GI Bill to any one person. Currently, I have given my youngest daughter 27 months (3x years of semesters @ 9x months/2x semesters/year), and my wife has 9 months (2x semesters) of my GI Bill. I can rearrange those if I see fit (for example, if my daughter doesn't maintain the standards my wife and I feel need to be maintained - I can deduct months from her portion). I would suggest that you offer her some of your GI Bill on condition she attend marriage and/or psychological counseling with you. Make the offer irrevocable - say, give her 9x months (effectively 1x year of study) - she only needs to make a serious effort to work on the marriage with you. This means that even if things don't work out, you should have to honor the commitment. It's not ideal, but it may get things moving in the right direction.
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1SG (Join to see) - you and your family need our therapeutic program at Project Sanctuary - soon! You're who we serve best!
I'm putting out a call to the entire RallyPoint team to help this 1SG and his family: donate to help him get to a retreat, save his marriage, and keep his family intact!
I will personally ensure Jerry and his family get to a retreat soon.
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CW2 Geoff Lachance - much appreciated for this donation for 1SG (Join to see) and his family to attend a Project Sanctuary retreat!
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