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After reading yet another series of the typical “Republicans are _______” and “Democrats are _______”, I was going to respond in support of one individual who was stating that just because you’re against one idea doesn’t mean you are for another, but it would likely be seen as an attack on the individual making the claim in the first place.
All too often I see individuals on here who brand an entire group of people because they don't share the same ideology or belief on a particular subject as they do. It doesn't matter if it is a political, religious, or social belief/ideology, they want to portray those that don't believe as they do as the intolerant ones.
This isn’t something confined to those who believe one side of a topic either as it appears in almost all types of discussion topics. While there are truly some heinous beliefs, I don't see anyone on RallyPoint trying to argue the benefits of human sacrifice or population control through mass execution of children.
It's not about having a conversation regarding the positives and negatives about a view for many. For them it's mostly about how "you suck more than I do" and for many others it’s become a partisan game. For both groups, their enjoyment seems to be leaving a flaming bag of partisan rhetoric on the social media porch, ringing the bell, and watching someone react to it. For some, it seems that the only enjoyment they are able to gain from social media is reaffirming that they have worth by portraying those they don’t agree with as not having any redeeming qualities.
Some really do believe in their hearts that everyone who supports _________ is a _________. There's a name for those that are obstinately or intolerantly devoted to their own opinions and prejudices and who regards members of another group with hatred and intolerance.
It’s bigot.
That’s not to say a policy or action is immune to criticism – complaining about something a politician does or a restriction they imposed is one of the greatest American pastimes. However, people supporting Biden don’t do it because of what YOU think, they do it for their own reasons. Perhaps it’s because they believe his social views or his approach to economic items - for a great many, it’s because he’s not ‘the other guy’. Likewise, people supporting Trump don’t do it because of what YOU think, they do it for their own reasons. Perhaps it’s because they believe his economic views or his approach to social items - for a great many it’s because he’s not ‘the other guy’.
I do get it, I do. For a large majority, ideology is tribal, a “Us vs Them” mentality, where they truly believe “If you’re not with me, you’re against me”.
I spent a large part of my military career in Information Operations and one saying sticks out that is applicable – “Perception is reality, but reality is not perception”. For many, their view on something is their own reality, but that doesn’t mean it IS reality.
I’m sure there are some that do support someone or something for the most negative of reasons, but if you truly believe that everyone, or even most, in a group of supporters do it for the most negative reasons you can attribute to them, then you are the intolerant one, not them.
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After reading yet another series of the typical “Republicans are _______” and “Democrats are _______”, I was going to respond in support of one individual who was stating that just because you’re against one idea doesn’t mean you are for another, but it would likely be seen as an attack on the individual making the claim in the first place.
All too often I see individuals on here who brand an entire group of people because they don't share the same ideology or belief on a particular subject as they do. It doesn't matter if it is a political, religious, or social belief/ideology, they want to portray those that don't believe as they do as the intolerant ones.
This isn’t something confined to those who believe one side of a topic either as it appears in almost all types of discussion topics. While there are truly some heinous beliefs, I don't see anyone on RallyPoint trying to argue the benefits of human sacrifice or population control through mass execution of children.
It's not about having a conversation regarding the positives and negatives about a view for many. For them it's mostly about how "you suck more than I do" and for many others it’s become a partisan game. For both groups, their enjoyment seems to be leaving a flaming bag of partisan rhetoric on the social media porch, ringing the bell, and watching someone react to it. For some, it seems that the only enjoyment they are able to gain from social media is reaffirming that they have worth by portraying those they don’t agree with as not having any redeeming qualities.
Some really do believe in their hearts that everyone who supports _________ is a _________. There's a name for those that are obstinately or intolerantly devoted to their own opinions and prejudices and who regards members of another group with hatred and intolerance.
It’s bigot.
That’s not to say a policy or action is immune to criticism – complaining about something a politician does or a restriction they imposed is one of the greatest American pastimes. However, people supporting Biden don’t do it because of what YOU think, they do it for their own reasons. Perhaps it’s because they believe his social views or his approach to economic items - for a great many, it’s because he’s not ‘the other guy’. Likewise, people supporting Trump don’t do it because of what YOU think, they do it for their own reasons. Perhaps it’s because they believe his economic views or his approach to social items - for a great many it’s because he’s not ‘the other guy’.
I do get it, I do. For a large majority, ideology is tribal, a “Us vs Them” mentality, where they truly believe “If you’re not with me, you’re against me”.
I spent a large part of my military career in Information Operations and one saying sticks out that is applicable – “Perception is reality, but reality is not perception”. For many, their view on something is their own reality, but that doesn’t mean it IS reality.
I’m sure there are some that do support someone or something for the most negative of reasons, but if you truly believe that everyone, or even most, in a group of supporters do it for the most negative reasons you can attribute to them, then you are the intolerant one, not them.
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While there may come a time when there’s more unity on RP regarding particular topics, that may not be for awhile. You just can’t get people to not hate Trump or Biden at this time. A devastating occurrence nationwide—foreign attack, another Depression —would unite Americans minds onto something more important— like survival. But for now, it is what it is. From the actions taken and results observed, it appears that there is no redeeming value to the current-day DNC and most Democrat leaders ; note that every decision coming out of the White House seems geared to weaken and tank the United States—in both foreign and domestic matters. That’s a fearful thing.
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Sgt (Join to see) - In that case, I would ask is how can you be sure that everything you know is what is shown to you by God and what is from your own opinion based on the information that you have taken in, which may include even having been shown the truth by God but ignoring the signs.
While God may show you the truth, he doesn't force you to obey that truth. We often rationalize away what we know to be right with what is convenient, popular or in line with what we want to believe.
History is full of examples where Godly individuals did things that were wrong because they listened to themselves over listening to God.
While God may show you the truth, he doesn't force you to obey that truth. We often rationalize away what we know to be right with what is convenient, popular or in line with what we want to believe.
History is full of examples where Godly individuals did things that were wrong because they listened to themselves over listening to God.
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COL Randall C. By faith in and trust in God, we can believe He will show us truth and then how to act on it. He’s against evil, so everyone must determine WHAT is evil— which the Word can give us understanding of.
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COL Randall C.
Sgt (Join to see) - Taking what you said as true, then human nature must be at play for why all Christians aren't following what God says.
Surveys differ by a few points, but roughly 67% to 70% of the country identifies as Christian. Some are Catholic, some Protestant, and some are non-denominational. While there may be more "religiously unaffiliated" in the Democratic party and more "evangelical Protestants" in the Republican party, both parties hold some degree of all categories of Christians/non-Christians.
Does that mean that God only reveals the truth to those on the Republican side or does it mean that only Democrats ignore what they know to be true? Shouldn't the Democrat Christians (evangelical Protestants, non-evangelical Protestants, Catholics, etc.) also know what the truth is and how to act on it? Short of God not revealing the truth to Democrats, the question then turns to why one would think that only Democrats ignore the truth God has given them?
Surveys differ by a few points, but roughly 67% to 70% of the country identifies as Christian. Some are Catholic, some Protestant, and some are non-denominational. While there may be more "religiously unaffiliated" in the Democratic party and more "evangelical Protestants" in the Republican party, both parties hold some degree of all categories of Christians/non-Christians.
Does that mean that God only reveals the truth to those on the Republican side or does it mean that only Democrats ignore what they know to be true? Shouldn't the Democrat Christians (evangelical Protestants, non-evangelical Protestants, Catholics, etc.) also know what the truth is and how to act on it? Short of God not revealing the truth to Democrats, the question then turns to why one would think that only Democrats ignore the truth God has given them?
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Colonel, I truly believe that politics are like fish, they start to smell bad quite quickly. I try not to express my opinions on Rally Point, not because of fear of being called a bigot, but out of respect for my fellow men and women.
And that being said, I read a lot of the posts and form my own opinions which I see best kept to myself. Who am I to judge another mans thought? If you are a human being, you will at sometime or another form an opinion, whether it be religious, political or the cost of the air we breathe. It is only human nature but we must learn to control our impulses to blurt out the first thing that comes to mind.
Social media, in my opinion, has given those who feel unheard a platforms to grip-e and moan about things other people really don't want to hear about from them. A poor excuse for free speech and some are just not capable of forming a reasonable idea or thought.
It is my intent to continue to be in the background, read the many posts and keep my opinions and comments to myself. Then I can argue the merits of the topic without giving offense.
Peace be with you.
And that being said, I read a lot of the posts and form my own opinions which I see best kept to myself. Who am I to judge another mans thought? If you are a human being, you will at sometime or another form an opinion, whether it be religious, political or the cost of the air we breathe. It is only human nature but we must learn to control our impulses to blurt out the first thing that comes to mind.
Social media, in my opinion, has given those who feel unheard a platforms to grip-e and moan about things other people really don't want to hear about from them. A poor excuse for free speech and some are just not capable of forming a reasonable idea or thought.
It is my intent to continue to be in the background, read the many posts and keep my opinions and comments to myself. Then I can argue the merits of the topic without giving offense.
Peace be with you.
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For some reason ,people have the need to be right. You don't have to have the need to be right, And you don't have to tell people who you're going to vote for and if you do , don't listen to them if they put you down.
Also learn to accept that there are Americans who are living in Germany, Canada and elsewhere Who can vote in their former home state by Absentee ballot. A couple of progressives on here have said that I don't have a say in this forum because I live in Canada and I must be a traitor. They don't know me and they don't know that I deployed to Afghanistan with the USAR from Canada and then I went from Captain to Lieutenant Colonel and I served the USA in every capacity. I voted as a good citizen even from abroad.
I notice that some of these progressives. If they can't win in their argument ,they automatically attack you.
Also learn to accept that there are Americans who are living in Germany, Canada and elsewhere Who can vote in their former home state by Absentee ballot. A couple of progressives on here have said that I don't have a say in this forum because I live in Canada and I must be a traitor. They don't know me and they don't know that I deployed to Afghanistan with the USAR from Canada and then I went from Captain to Lieutenant Colonel and I served the USA in every capacity. I voted as a good citizen even from abroad.
I notice that some of these progressives. If they can't win in their argument ,they automatically attack you.
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LTC (Join to see) - Unfortunately the citizen who refuses to vote for one of the two main candidates is just throwing their vote away. Guess the rest of US voting GOP or DEM will decide the leadership of US.
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LTC Joe Anderson That's why I like rub into modern extreme leftist Democrats that a Clinton is very close to a moderate Republican. He almost balanced the budget and he lowered taxes on a second term to compromise with Republicans. He put National Guard troops on the border with operation Gatekeeper.
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LTC Joe Anderson - Off party candidates have always been "spoilers." Ross Perot and Ralph Nader are the two most recent examples who completely upset election outcomes. I too often have been tempted to vote for an outside candidate even though I recognized that I was throwing away my vote. And now, when the outcome is so damn critical, I can't do it, even if I have to hold my nose in the voting booth.
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