Posted on Mar 22, 2016
Which candidate do you think will support our only ally, Israel, in the Middle East?
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I think when push come to shove, if they want the Jewish vote they all will say just about anything. However, Cruz and Trump would do the better job in supporting Israel.
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What happened to Jodan, Egypt, Kuwait, Bahrain, Morocco, Qatar, the UAE, and Saudi Arabia as being our allies?
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SFC Justin Scott
CPT (Join to see) - You replied before my follow on apparently. As I read further into the comments, another poster said something that made me go back and reread. I missed the word only the first time which completely validates your post afterall.
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SFC Justin Scott
CPT (Join to see) - When I'm wrong, I'm definitely willing to admit it. I apologize for my first comment, you were not obfuscating but rather pointing out the fallacy of the OP's question. Had he left out the word only, his question would have had merit.
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TSgt Timothy Ryburn
This is the "Perfectly worded question" to show why I don't support a Republican ticket. The tone from Cruz, Trump, or the rest is one that supports a mindset of "Israel is our only ally." It is almost as if they draw comfort and strength from being "Against the World" with Israel propped up on our shoulders. Whatever happened to "Making Friends and Allies." Why can't we look at all of these other countries in the Middle East as "Potential Allies" instead of "Potential Targets."
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The question on its face is flawed.
Israel is not our "only ally" in the Middle East. Jordan is a prime example or a long standing "ally" in the Middle East. Technically speaking the days or Allies and Enemies are long gone.
We have Nations whose "current and specific interests" either align or do not align with ours. Israel is one of those, just like Saudi Arabia. Every sovereign nation looks out for THEIR own interests, and if those happen to align with OUR interests, more the better. If they don't, they will sell us out. Just like we will to them.
We got caught spying on our "friends" or "allies" or whatever you want to call them during the Snowden fiasco, and although everyone got huffy about it, you can be sure everyone knew it was happening, and everyone would do the exact same thing in the name of Diplomacy.
We don't have Friends. We have Nations who we are currently "friendly" with. Israel is one of those Nations, but if we can get a better deal out of Iran, we will, and if that means Iran gets screwed... that's Diplomacy.
As for the Jewish vote, it's 1.4% of the US population, and leans HEAVILY Democratic Party (70%+) in the US.
Israel is not our "only ally" in the Middle East. Jordan is a prime example or a long standing "ally" in the Middle East. Technically speaking the days or Allies and Enemies are long gone.
We have Nations whose "current and specific interests" either align or do not align with ours. Israel is one of those, just like Saudi Arabia. Every sovereign nation looks out for THEIR own interests, and if those happen to align with OUR interests, more the better. If they don't, they will sell us out. Just like we will to them.
We got caught spying on our "friends" or "allies" or whatever you want to call them during the Snowden fiasco, and although everyone got huffy about it, you can be sure everyone knew it was happening, and everyone would do the exact same thing in the name of Diplomacy.
We don't have Friends. We have Nations who we are currently "friendly" with. Israel is one of those Nations, but if we can get a better deal out of Iran, we will, and if that means Iran gets screwed... that's Diplomacy.
As for the Jewish vote, it's 1.4% of the US population, and leans HEAVILY Democratic Party (70%+) in the US.
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SFC Justin Scott
I'm glad I saw your post because I missed that phraseology (only ally) the first time I read it and was going to come to his defense on other posts (and actually did on one prior to seeing your post).
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Because clearly the right wing evangelical Christian candidates would be more supportive of Israel than the lone Jewish candidate?
That makes sense....
That makes sense....
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SSG (Join to see)
It all depends on how you define supportive, if supportive means continuing to hand over billions of dollars each year and blocking UN condemnation of Israel while Israel continues to annex Palestinian land... then Obama has been very supportive. If in order to qualify as supportive the president needs to do all that and bend his knee to Netanyahu... then Obama and likely all the other Democrat candidates are not adequately supportive.
If your idea of a U.S. President who supports Israel includes fealty to Netanyahu, you probably want to support Cruz.
If your idea of a U.S. President who supports Israel includes fealty to Netanyahu, you probably want to support Cruz.
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SSG Daniel Deiler
Correction...that land has ALWAYS been Israels. The Palestinian state stole by use of force the land that truly is, was and will always belong to the Jews.
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Maj John Bell
How far do you want to go back? There is a pretty fair argument that it ceased to be a Jewish state from the fourth century A.D. until the twentieth century A.D. Post-WWII there were forced relocations of non-Jewish population that had been in place for centuries.
This is what I believe to be true, 1)Jews needed a homeland. 2) The European powers did a really bad job setting it up 3) Everybody is pissed off. 4) If I had been in charge, everybody would be just as pissed off.
This is what I believe to be true, 1)Jews needed a homeland. 2) The European powers did a really bad job setting it up 3) Everybody is pissed off. 4) If I had been in charge, everybody would be just as pissed off.
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