Posted on Jan 11, 2024
West Point and the Naval Academy can keep affirmative action — for now
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Personally I feel affirmative is rather insulting as its saying hey you can't compete so here's a crutch.
Some facts:
White household, and white families have eight times the median wealth of Black families − $188,200, compared with $24,100 − a gap that has been widening.
The equalizer to close these gaps was supposed to be education (affirmative action). If you’re able to go to college, you’re able to find a job and support yourself and your family. But the outcomes aren’t showing that.
Some Results:
In considering the lower graduation rates of students admitted via affirmative action is this really helping or is it setting up individuals to fail. According to the data this difference between the proportions of white students and Black students graduating with degrees has gotten bigger not smaller. (despite affirmative action) This is an old graph but it illustrates the problem.
Roughly 48% of 1.6 million vs 29% of .3 million degrees. What is interesting is if this all a result because of race then explain the .1 million, 51%, of Asians graduating. Considering they are being excluded from affirmative action and are a smaller minority the claim seems to run counter to the the Asian community in America as there are being excluded in getting help in regards college admissions. My guess is the higher graduation rate being directly related to these students being better prepared for college - academically and or financially than the other demographics.
https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2017/04/26/college-completion-rates-vary-race-and-ethnicity-report-finds
Point being maybe instead of lowering the bar and setting up individuals to fail maybe we should be looking at what the Asians are doing in regards in preparing students for success in college.
Some facts:
White household, and white families have eight times the median wealth of Black families − $188,200, compared with $24,100 − a gap that has been widening.
The equalizer to close these gaps was supposed to be education (affirmative action). If you’re able to go to college, you’re able to find a job and support yourself and your family. But the outcomes aren’t showing that.
Some Results:
In considering the lower graduation rates of students admitted via affirmative action is this really helping or is it setting up individuals to fail. According to the data this difference between the proportions of white students and Black students graduating with degrees has gotten bigger not smaller. (despite affirmative action) This is an old graph but it illustrates the problem.
Roughly 48% of 1.6 million vs 29% of .3 million degrees. What is interesting is if this all a result because of race then explain the .1 million, 51%, of Asians graduating. Considering they are being excluded from affirmative action and are a smaller minority the claim seems to run counter to the the Asian community in America as there are being excluded in getting help in regards college admissions. My guess is the higher graduation rate being directly related to these students being better prepared for college - academically and or financially than the other demographics.
https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2017/04/26/college-completion-rates-vary-race-and-ethnicity-report-finds
Point being maybe instead of lowering the bar and setting up individuals to fail maybe we should be looking at what the Asians are doing in regards in preparing students for success in college.
College completion rates vary by race and ethnicity, report finds
On average, white and Asian students earn a college-level credential at a rate about 20percentage points higher than Hispanic and black students do, a new report shows.
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MAJ Byron Oyler
I live in a predominantly black neighborhood and the numbers of people that do not care about the education of blacks is astonishing. It is not the media painted picture of white people not caring, it is minorities not caring and setting them back. When I lived in El Paso it was hispanics preventing other hispanics from learning English. Someone has figured out how to hold these people in slavery and it is not white republicans doing it like mainstream media wants you to believe.
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SPC David S.
MAJ Byron Oyler - yes that is a problem as Black student enrollment has been in decline over the last 10 years.
Not sure how equal output should be expected with unequal input.
Not sure how equal output should be expected with unequal input.
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I'm having a hard time caring about this. Maybe I would if members of Congress didn't have the ability to appoint students to the acadamies.
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MAJ Dale E. Wilson, Ph.D.
True. But the academies have the final say on who goes. When I was at VFMA&C in Wayne, PA, I served as a USMA nomination adviser to Rep. Curt Weldon. He had six academy grads or former faculty members interview his candidates and create an OML.
When other congresspersons used their nominations as political plums and submitted folks who were unqualified, they would grab the next kid on Weldon's OML and plug him or her to the next class.
He also did this for USNA and USAFA nominations.
Instead of his regular two appts., he often got an extra two or three kids from his district into each academy!
When other congresspersons used their nominations as political plums and submitted folks who were unqualified, they would grab the next kid on Weldon's OML and plug him or her to the next class.
He also did this for USNA and USAFA nominations.
Instead of his regular two appts., he often got an extra two or three kids from his district into each academy!
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