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1SG Steven Imerman
I hope. But, there never seem to be any indictments, are there, at least on the Democrat side of things.
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What they did is terrifying...they brought the full strength of the US Government against a political opponent. This is beyond Watergate and yet the press refuses to deal with it
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SPC Erich Guenther
The press should be covering it but you can bet your bottom dollar they will cover it if any criminal charges are made and it will be heavy coverage then.
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Lt Col Charlie Brown
SPC Erich Guenther - hopefully, they are good at ignoring or spinning what doesn't fit the owners' narrative
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Cpl Jeff N.
Nixon's henchmen broke into a DNC office to get intel. The Obama administration leveraged the entire intelligence establishment and the DOJ/FBI to go after Flynn and, of course, Trump and ultimately others. This is 10 times worse than Watergate. Everyone being honest knows this. That is why the media and the democrats ignore it. They are, at their heart, purely partisan and dishonest.
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Obamagate is a myth. Trump Russian Collusion is not. Read the Mueller Report. Trump and his cohorts are traitors and sooner they are in prison, the better. Lock Them Up.
"1. Trump was receptive to a Campaign national security adviser’s (George Papadopoulos) pursuit of a back channel to Putin.
2. Kremlin operatives provided the Campaign a preview of the Russian plan to distribute stolen emails.
3. The Trump Campaign chairman and deputy chairman (Paul Manafort and Rick Gates) knowingly shared internal polling data and information on battleground states with a Russian spy; and the Campaign chairman worked with the Russian spy on a pro-Russia “peace” plan for Ukraine.
4. The Trump Campaign chairman periodically shared internal polling data with the Russian spy with the expectation it would be shared with Putin-linked oligarch, Oleg Deripaska.
5. Trump Campaign chairman Manafort expected Trump’s winning the presidency would mean Deripaska would want to use Manafort to advance Deripaska’s interests in the United States and elsewhere.
6. Trump Tower meeting: (1) On receiving an email offering derogatory information on Clinton coming from a Russian government official, Donald Trump Jr. “appears to have accepted that offer;” (2) members of the Campaign discussed the Trump Tower meeting beforehand; (3) Donald Trump Jr. told the Russians during the meeting that Trump could revisit the issue of the Magnitsky Act if elected.
7. A Trump Campaign official told the Special Counsel he “felt obliged to object” to a GOP Platform change on Ukraine because it contradicted Trump’s wishes; however, the investigation did not establish that Gordon was directed by Trump.
8. Russian military hackers may have followed Trump’s July 27, 2016 public statement “Russia if you’re listening …” within hours by targeting Clinton’s personal office for the first time.
9. Trump requested campaign affiliates to get Clinton’s emails, which resulted in an individual apparently acting in coordination with the Campaign claiming to have successfully contacted Russian hackers.
10. The Trump Campaign—and Trump personally—appeared to have advanced knowledge of future WikiLeaks releases.
11. The Trump Campaign coordinated campaign-related public communications based on future WikiLeaks releases.
12. Michael Cohen, on behalf of the Trump Organization, brokered a secret deal for a Trump Tower Moscow project directly involving Putin’s inner circle, at least until June 2016.
13. During the presidential transition, Jared Kushner and Eric Prince engaged in secret back channel communications with Russian agents. (1) Kushner suggested to the Russian Ambassador that they use a secure communication line from within the Russian Embassy to speak with Russian Generals; and (2) Prince and Kushner’s friend Rick Gerson conducted secret back channel meetings with a Putin agent to develop a plan for U.S.-Russian relations.
14. During the presidential transition, in coordination with other members of the Transition Team, Michael Flynn spoke with the Russian Ambassador to prevent a tit for tat Russian response to the Obama administration’s imposition of sanctions for election interference; the Russians agreed not to retaliate saying they wanted a good relationship with the incoming administration."
https://www.justsecurity.org/63838/guide-to-the-mueller-reports-findings-on-collusion/
"1. Trump was receptive to a Campaign national security adviser’s (George Papadopoulos) pursuit of a back channel to Putin.
2. Kremlin operatives provided the Campaign a preview of the Russian plan to distribute stolen emails.
3. The Trump Campaign chairman and deputy chairman (Paul Manafort and Rick Gates) knowingly shared internal polling data and information on battleground states with a Russian spy; and the Campaign chairman worked with the Russian spy on a pro-Russia “peace” plan for Ukraine.
4. The Trump Campaign chairman periodically shared internal polling data with the Russian spy with the expectation it would be shared with Putin-linked oligarch, Oleg Deripaska.
5. Trump Campaign chairman Manafort expected Trump’s winning the presidency would mean Deripaska would want to use Manafort to advance Deripaska’s interests in the United States and elsewhere.
6. Trump Tower meeting: (1) On receiving an email offering derogatory information on Clinton coming from a Russian government official, Donald Trump Jr. “appears to have accepted that offer;” (2) members of the Campaign discussed the Trump Tower meeting beforehand; (3) Donald Trump Jr. told the Russians during the meeting that Trump could revisit the issue of the Magnitsky Act if elected.
7. A Trump Campaign official told the Special Counsel he “felt obliged to object” to a GOP Platform change on Ukraine because it contradicted Trump’s wishes; however, the investigation did not establish that Gordon was directed by Trump.
8. Russian military hackers may have followed Trump’s July 27, 2016 public statement “Russia if you’re listening …” within hours by targeting Clinton’s personal office for the first time.
9. Trump requested campaign affiliates to get Clinton’s emails, which resulted in an individual apparently acting in coordination with the Campaign claiming to have successfully contacted Russian hackers.
10. The Trump Campaign—and Trump personally—appeared to have advanced knowledge of future WikiLeaks releases.
11. The Trump Campaign coordinated campaign-related public communications based on future WikiLeaks releases.
12. Michael Cohen, on behalf of the Trump Organization, brokered a secret deal for a Trump Tower Moscow project directly involving Putin’s inner circle, at least until June 2016.
13. During the presidential transition, Jared Kushner and Eric Prince engaged in secret back channel communications with Russian agents. (1) Kushner suggested to the Russian Ambassador that they use a secure communication line from within the Russian Embassy to speak with Russian Generals; and (2) Prince and Kushner’s friend Rick Gerson conducted secret back channel meetings with a Putin agent to develop a plan for U.S.-Russian relations.
14. During the presidential transition, in coordination with other members of the Transition Team, Michael Flynn spoke with the Russian Ambassador to prevent a tit for tat Russian response to the Obama administration’s imposition of sanctions for election interference; the Russians agreed not to retaliate saying they wanted a good relationship with the incoming administration."
https://www.justsecurity.org/63838/guide-to-the-mueller-reports-findings-on-collusion/
Guide to the Mueller Report’s Findings on “Collusion”
Essential reading on the Mueller Report: an annotation plus key findings, drawing on investigative reports and Special Counsel court filings.
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MSG Stan Hutchison
Why would the Trump supporters read the Mueller report? They would not believe it anyway. Facts do not matter to them.
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Bottom line up front, if Mueller found evidence that Trump or the campaign colluded with Russia, it would have been referred to Congress and Congress would have charged it. But they didn't, because they didn't have it.
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1SG (Join to see) - Republican controlled Senate refused to finish the job and Trump obstructed justice by refusing to allow witness testimony. The evidence is there for criminal wrong doing, it just needs to be out in the open. The SDNY and a new DOJ will have to finish the job once the Traitor is out of office. Lock him Up!
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MSgt (Join to see) - Just because a jury didn't convict does not mean dude is guilty anyway. This isn't just any jury, either. It is the representatives elected by we the people to render such a judgment.
It isn't obstruction of justice to evoke separation of powers to prevent sitting or former Executive Branch officers to testify in front of Congress. It is called Executive Privilege and it has ample precedent in law. If Congress didn't like this tactic, they could have went to the third (judicial Branch) for a ruling, but didn't because A) they were in a hurry and B) there is a not so small chance the ruling would not be in their favor, denying them some legitimacy.
What the SDNY is looking into relates to business dealings and the like, not Trump's conduct in office. If he committed a crime, I am right there with you for locking him up. But as for the impeachment counts of "obstruction of Congress" and "abuse of power", those were rightly voted down. The case wasn't made, neither the Senate nor the American people bought what Schiff and his confederates were selling, and Trump remains President. Ultimately, we'll have our say on that in November. As President Obama said, "Elections have consequences".
It isn't obstruction of justice to evoke separation of powers to prevent sitting or former Executive Branch officers to testify in front of Congress. It is called Executive Privilege and it has ample precedent in law. If Congress didn't like this tactic, they could have went to the third (judicial Branch) for a ruling, but didn't because A) they were in a hurry and B) there is a not so small chance the ruling would not be in their favor, denying them some legitimacy.
What the SDNY is looking into relates to business dealings and the like, not Trump's conduct in office. If he committed a crime, I am right there with you for locking him up. But as for the impeachment counts of "obstruction of Congress" and "abuse of power", those were rightly voted down. The case wasn't made, neither the Senate nor the American people bought what Schiff and his confederates were selling, and Trump remains President. Ultimately, we'll have our say on that in November. As President Obama said, "Elections have consequences".
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