Posted on Dec 2, 2022
New Court Ruling Slams Air Force's Limited Approval of Religious Exemptions for COVID-19 Vaccine
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New Court Ruling Slams Air Force's Limited Approval of Religious Exemptions for COVID-19 Vaccine
MY SAY: The walls are closing in on unfair and unlawful orders to Active Duty military to take an unapproved 'vaccine.' Emergency mandates must stop NOW, and all those aggrieved need to be reinstated and compensated.
MY SAY: The walls are closing in on unfair and unlawful orders to Active Duty military to take an unapproved 'vaccine.' Emergency mandates must stop NOW, and all those aggrieved need to be reinstated and compensated.
New Court Ruling Slams Air Force's Limited Approval of Religious Exemptions for COVID-19 Vaccine
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Unapproved vaccine? There has been no military mandate in effect until after the vaccines have been approved by the FDA. The legal authority for the military to mandate FDA approved vaccines for service members is long established.
https://www.fda.gov/emergency-preparedness-and-response/coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19/covid-19-vaccines
https://www.fda.gov/emergency-preparedness-and-response/coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19/covid-19-vaccines
The FDA has regulatory processes in place to facilitate the development of COVID-19 vaccines that meet the FDA's rigorous scientific standards.
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SFC Casey O'Mally
SPC Kevin Ford The flu vaccines prevent catching and/or transmitting specific strains of the flu. People still get the flu because there are too many strains to vaccinatebagainst all of them.
And rabies vaccines do not prevent catching rabies, but they do prevent transmitting it.
Show me a single vaccine that is proven and admitted that has no intent or purpose of actually stopping transmission. Aside from the cOVID vaccines.
As for the proof of legal distinction you provided it in your own link...
"The products are legally distinct..."
https://heavy.com/news/comirnaty-vs-pfizer-vaccine-legally-distinct/
And rabies vaccines do not prevent catching rabies, but they do prevent transmitting it.
Show me a single vaccine that is proven and admitted that has no intent or purpose of actually stopping transmission. Aside from the cOVID vaccines.
As for the proof of legal distinction you provided it in your own link...
"The products are legally distinct..."
https://heavy.com/news/comirnaty-vs-pfizer-vaccine-legally-distinct/
Comirnaty vs. Pfizer Vaccine: Pfizer Comments on ‘Legally Distinct’ Wording
Pfizer spoke with Heavy about "legally distinct" wording in FDA documents about Comirnaty and Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccines.
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SFC Casey O'Mally
SPC Kevin Ford I have no doubt that *today* Comirnaty is what is being used and pushed. But when the mandate went in to effect - and servicemembers were getting the boot (or having the boot initiated) for refusing - that was not the case. Not only was Comirnaty not *always* given; it was *never* given.
Which means they were kicked out (or had proceedings initiated) for failing to take a vaccine they were not offered.
Yes, they were offered a medically interchangeable vaccine. And, personally, I would have got the shot. Hell, I *did* get the shot, despite having no mandate, military or otherwise.
Medically, any refusal on the grounds it was Pfizer-Biontech and not Comirnaty is laughable. But LEGALLY, that legal distinction matters.
Which means they were kicked out (or had proceedings initiated) for failing to take a vaccine they were not offered.
Yes, they were offered a medically interchangeable vaccine. And, personally, I would have got the shot. Hell, I *did* get the shot, despite having no mandate, military or otherwise.
Medically, any refusal on the grounds it was Pfizer-Biontech and not Comirnaty is laughable. But LEGALLY, that legal distinction matters.
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SFC Kelly Fuerhoff
SFC Casey O'Mally - Definitely not high since I'd rather not risk my career...smh. Have a day.
Also what that seems to say is that they clarified a definition put out that made it seem like it was 100% effective which no vaccines are. So they clarified. Again have a day.
Also what that seems to say is that they clarified a definition put out that made it seem like it was 100% effective which no vaccines are. So they clarified. Again have a day.
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SPC Kevin Ford
SFC Casey O'Mally -
You stated:
"Medically, any refusal on the grounds it was Pfizer-Biontech and not Comirnaty is laughable. But LEGALLY, that legal distinction matters."
I'm not so sure. It is the FDA's own guidance that they can and should be used interchangeably. A reasonable person would take that to mean that using Pfizer-Biontech as a substitute is approved. Stranger things have happened in court, but I doubt too many judges will agree with the SMs, at least not in appeal.
You stated:
"The flu vaccines prevent catching and/or transmitting specific strains of the flu."
No they don't. You can still get and transmit the strains you are vaccinated for.
"But it may surprise you to know that not all vaccines provide the same level of protection. Some vaccines stop you getting symptomatic disease, but others stop you getting infected too.
The latter is known as "sterilizing immunity". With sterilizing immunity, the virus can't even gain a toehold in the body because the immune system stops the virus entering cells and replicating.
There is a subtle yet important difference between preventing disease and preventing infection. A vaccine that "just" prevents disease might not stop you from transmitting the disease to others – even if you feel fine. But a vaccine that provides sterilizing immunity stops the virus in its tracks.
In an ideal world, all vaccines would induce sterilizing immunity. In reality, it is actually extremely difficult to produce vaccines that stop virus infection altogether. Most vaccines that are in routine use today do not achieve this."
https://www.sciencealert.com/few-vaccines-actually-prevent-infection-here-s-why-that-s-not-a-problem-with-covid-19
You stated:
"And rabies vaccines do not prevent catching rabies, but they do prevent transmitting it."
How is rabies transmitted? Through the exchange to bodily fluids, usually through a bite. As far as I can see after searching around there is nothing that states that a person with rabies cannot spread rabies even if previously vaccinated. You'd have to show me evidence of that. But as stated in the article above, not all vaccines stop transmission and that isn't a feature in all vaccines. Most people think all vaccines are what the article refers to as giving sterilizing immunity, but not all do. In fact, most don't, like the flu vaccine (even for targeted strains). Not only can you still get a strain you've been vaccinated against, you can pass it on.
Not if you just look at the way back machine you can find plenty or articles talking about vaccines efficacy and effectiveness and the relative REDUCTION in transmission rates among vaccinated individuals. Most do not stop transmission, they do not give 100% immunity. This is nothing new after COVID, this paper was from 2012 talking about it.
"Mathematical models of disease transmission and vaccination typically assume that protective vaccine efficacy (i.e. the relative reduction in the transmission rate among vaccinated individuals) is equivalent to direct effectiveness of vaccine. This assumption has not been evaluated."
https://europepmc.org/article/PMC/PMC3798059
You stated:
"Medically, any refusal on the grounds it was Pfizer-Biontech and not Comirnaty is laughable. But LEGALLY, that legal distinction matters."
I'm not so sure. It is the FDA's own guidance that they can and should be used interchangeably. A reasonable person would take that to mean that using Pfizer-Biontech as a substitute is approved. Stranger things have happened in court, but I doubt too many judges will agree with the SMs, at least not in appeal.
You stated:
"The flu vaccines prevent catching and/or transmitting specific strains of the flu."
No they don't. You can still get and transmit the strains you are vaccinated for.
"But it may surprise you to know that not all vaccines provide the same level of protection. Some vaccines stop you getting symptomatic disease, but others stop you getting infected too.
The latter is known as "sterilizing immunity". With sterilizing immunity, the virus can't even gain a toehold in the body because the immune system stops the virus entering cells and replicating.
There is a subtle yet important difference between preventing disease and preventing infection. A vaccine that "just" prevents disease might not stop you from transmitting the disease to others – even if you feel fine. But a vaccine that provides sterilizing immunity stops the virus in its tracks.
In an ideal world, all vaccines would induce sterilizing immunity. In reality, it is actually extremely difficult to produce vaccines that stop virus infection altogether. Most vaccines that are in routine use today do not achieve this."
https://www.sciencealert.com/few-vaccines-actually-prevent-infection-here-s-why-that-s-not-a-problem-with-covid-19
You stated:
"And rabies vaccines do not prevent catching rabies, but they do prevent transmitting it."
How is rabies transmitted? Through the exchange to bodily fluids, usually through a bite. As far as I can see after searching around there is nothing that states that a person with rabies cannot spread rabies even if previously vaccinated. You'd have to show me evidence of that. But as stated in the article above, not all vaccines stop transmission and that isn't a feature in all vaccines. Most people think all vaccines are what the article refers to as giving sterilizing immunity, but not all do. In fact, most don't, like the flu vaccine (even for targeted strains). Not only can you still get a strain you've been vaccinated against, you can pass it on.
Not if you just look at the way back machine you can find plenty or articles talking about vaccines efficacy and effectiveness and the relative REDUCTION in transmission rates among vaccinated individuals. Most do not stop transmission, they do not give 100% immunity. This is nothing new after COVID, this paper was from 2012 talking about it.
"Mathematical models of disease transmission and vaccination typically assume that protective vaccine efficacy (i.e. the relative reduction in the transmission rate among vaccinated individuals) is equivalent to direct effectiveness of vaccine. This assumption has not been evaluated."
https://europepmc.org/article/PMC/PMC3798059
Few Vaccines Actually Prevent Infection – Here's Why That's Not Actually a Problem
Vaccines are a marvel of medicine.
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They need to reinstate all those who protested starting with the Marine who gave up his shot at retirement
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MAJ Montgomery Granger
1,000% agree! Those who refused the JAB as an unlawful order must be reinstated NOW and compensated and made whole.
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So I guess all that whining about Sikh/Muslim troops wanting to grow out their hair was unnecessary outrage. After all, religious rights!
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