Posted on Sep 25, 2017
Church shooting spree stopped by usher with gun
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And diehard libs will say that guns don't belong in church. I will say that wearing a six-shooter on one's hip is a little too "wild west," but I'm grateful the good guy was packing, no matter where it was carried.
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Agreed. Totally agree with the hip holster. But a good CC is always good. Vehicle is a great place if not too far.
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LCpl Emanuel W.
Some churches are making their own security teams, some CCW, some unarmed. My church has an armed CCW security team lead by the pastor's son who is a police officer. We all carry within the church and most of us are licensed armed security.
It's sad that the church has to feel that they need to create such a guard within their walls like this.
It's sad that the church has to feel that they need to create such a guard within their walls like this.
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I've quietly and very discreetly been packing my little S&W Model 36 for 45 years...in church, grocery store, JC Penney's, you name it. I always will. And good shot, Brother Engle!!!
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With this church shooting, the blame won't that easy. Of course, it won't be the actual gunman's fault. Will it be religion, guns, Trump, the flag, a video....who knows.
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From what I read, the 22-year-old usher (Mr. Engle) confronted the shooter unarmed. In the scuffle, he received a pistol-whipping, but caused the gunman to non-fatally shoot himself in the chest. With the gunman down and disarmed, the usher then dashed to his car to retrieve his pistol and returned, where he stood over the gunman until police arrived. I don't know what the church's policy on being armed within the building was (in Tennessee being armed in church is legal unless specifically prohibited by the church), or why the usher (who had a concealed carry permit) was unarmed when this went down.
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If we dig into this persons back ground more we find.
http://gotnews.com/breaking-antioch-shooter-black-power-radical-posted-youre-likely-killed-white-man/
http://gotnews.com/breaking-antioch-shooter-black-power-radical-posted-youre-likely-killed-white-man/
BREAKING: #Antioch Shooter Is Black Power Radical Who Posted That “You’re More Likely To Be...
The Antioch, Tennessee church shooter is an immigrant from Sudan and black power radical with a history of sharing pro-Islamic and anti-Western posts on social media, a review of his Facebook and Twitter accounts reveals. Before 25-year-old Emanuel Kidega Samson opened fire on churchgoers in Antioch…
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CW3 Harvey K.
It looks like there's a lot of confusion over exactly what happened in this confrontation between the usher and the criminal/radical/jihadist.
1 -- Why did the usher receive a 'pistol whipping' instead of being shot, as was the case with several others in the church who were not a threat in any way to the perp?
2 -- If the perp was shot in the chest -- and 'disarmed' -- in a struggle with the usher, why did the usher go to his car to get his pistol?
3 -- Who had the gun taken from the 'disarmed' perp? Did the usher fetch his pistol to add to the restraint of the already (presumably) guarded and wounded perp?
It looks like there will have to be some 'settling of the mud' before such matters are explained.
1 -- Why did the usher receive a 'pistol whipping' instead of being shot, as was the case with several others in the church who were not a threat in any way to the perp?
2 -- If the perp was shot in the chest -- and 'disarmed' -- in a struggle with the usher, why did the usher go to his car to get his pistol?
3 -- Who had the gun taken from the 'disarmed' perp? Did the usher fetch his pistol to add to the restraint of the already (presumably) guarded and wounded perp?
It looks like there will have to be some 'settling of the mud' before such matters are explained.
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