Posted on Oct 11, 2017
At least 16 Marines separated for hazing in California
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They outlawed penning on chevrons and bloodstripes years ago by a White Letter, ALMAR or similar. The ritual went way back and was well intended but like everything some took it too far. Penning on chevrons was expected but it wasn't supposed to maim you. Make you sore? You bet. Some Marines were having lasting medical problems from a hard knee to the thighs that caused atrophy or worse. He's the CG so he can do whatever will fly. I don't like the idea of being fired by a letter though. If somebody is getting the boot you should at least look them in the eyes when you do it. Never heard of it till now. War is hell, but peacetime is a b***h. People have too much time on their hands and when they run out of rocks to whitewash they look elsewhere. IMO unless they caused lasting injury this does not warrant separation. NJP for violating an order but not kicking someone out. There may be more to the story though, as there often is.
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Cpl Tou Lee Yang
When I got my blood strip, I didn't get kick or knee in the legs. Instead, I got punch on the arm just like I got hit for each rank I got. Although I never participated in hitting others when they got promoted, I did get hit.
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I think we all did and I didn't mind it. It was a right of passage but some just went too far and it got outlawed. I guess it still went on, just not in plain view as before. I remember getting nailed pretty good but it wasn't over the top as to cause injury. Just some sore arms and stiff walking for a day or so.
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I remember when COs would even give a quick jab to chevrons on collar of Marines promoted after pinning them on - in formation. Just a club with backside of palm. Nobody was hurt and the Marines seemed to love it. It motivated the Marines to see the Skipper participate in the ritual. The Marines of higher or equal rank would wait until after the formation to form a gauntlet and pin them on upper arms and thigh. You would get nailed pretty good and be sore, but never injured. As you say, some would go too far and it was outlawed by policy. It's always fun till someone gets hurt.
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Hazing will never disappear from the Marine Corps or any other service. I remember when there was a big issue with the bloodwings hazing years ago and CMC Krulak was supposedly appalled by it, what wasn't mention was, he was the Commanding General at that base during that time and he had to have known about it since it's been a common ritual.
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Blood wings are a right of passage as well as tradition. The problem with today’s military is it has become to political down to the entry level PVT. Here is the problem while we as a nation haggle over sissy la la stuff as this the other non political military forces get stronger. Hence the fall of Rome
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