Posted on Nov 25, 2024
Trump Could Prompt Supreme Court Ruling on Birthright Citizenship
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Trump Could Prompt Supreme Court Ruling on Birthright Citizenship
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I highly doubt this will go to SCOTUS.
Birthright citizenship is very clearly outlined in the Constitution. 14A begins "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."
The only conceivable interpretation which would potentially remove birthright citizenship is claiming that children of illegal immigrants are not subject to US law. But if that is true, then we ALSO have no authority to deport them - or to try them or jail them for crimes, tax them, or do anything else. They would be ACTUAL SovCits.
If this goes to court at all, I see it being tossed out by the first court to see it, and every subsequent court refusing to review an appeal. No way SCOTUS grants cert on this.
Birthright citizenship is very clearly outlined in the Constitution. 14A begins "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."
The only conceivable interpretation which would potentially remove birthright citizenship is claiming that children of illegal immigrants are not subject to US law. But if that is true, then we ALSO have no authority to deport them - or to try them or jail them for crimes, tax them, or do anything else. They would be ACTUAL SovCits.
If this goes to court at all, I see it being tossed out by the first court to see it, and every subsequent court refusing to review an appeal. No way SCOTUS grants cert on this.
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MAJ Montgomery Granger
SFC Casey O'Mally - Yup! That's my opinion. SCOTUS will need to reconcile "natural born citizen" and anchor babies. There was a REASON for the clause - to ensure only true Americans were eligible for the Presidency. Yet, at this hour, there is an anchor baby VP one heartbeat away from the President's chair!
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SFC Casey O'Mally
MAJ Montgomery Granger At this hour there is an American citizen one heartbeat away. She was born here. She is a citizen. End of story.
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MAJ Montgomery Granger
Not really. You can't stop debate and questions - freedom of speech. The story never ends! Anyway, why would you want to? There is a REASON for the "natural born citizen" clause. Do you know what it is? Do you know why the founders wanted to ensure the LOYALTY of the chief executive?
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SFC Casey O'Mally
MAJ Montgomery Granger I am harassed that someone as ignorant of our Constitution became a field grade officer.
There are exactly zero loyalty clauses in the Constitution. And a good thing, because America just elected someone who bear ZERO loyalty to America. Only to himself. And demands that top government employees and Party members be loyal to HIM, not America. If loyalty is the hill you want to die on, I expect your full throated encouragement and support of DJT on January 21.
IMO, with your explicit degradation of the Constitution and advocation for ignoring it, you are disgracing both the uniform, and to your oath.
And freedom of speech is not at all applicable. I am not aember of the government - ANY government. Neither is RP. Your freedom of speech means exactly two things here. The first is Jack, I'll let you figure out what the other is. You have a right to say what you want without government interference. I have no requirement to listen or give you a platform. So bring your nonsense about freedom of speech somewhere else. Not to me, and not on my threat.
You are the weakest link. Goodbye.
There are exactly zero loyalty clauses in the Constitution. And a good thing, because America just elected someone who bear ZERO loyalty to America. Only to himself. And demands that top government employees and Party members be loyal to HIM, not America. If loyalty is the hill you want to die on, I expect your full throated encouragement and support of DJT on January 21.
IMO, with your explicit degradation of the Constitution and advocation for ignoring it, you are disgracing both the uniform, and to your oath.
And freedom of speech is not at all applicable. I am not aember of the government - ANY government. Neither is RP. Your freedom of speech means exactly two things here. The first is Jack, I'll let you figure out what the other is. You have a right to say what you want without government interference. I have no requirement to listen or give you a platform. So bring your nonsense about freedom of speech somewhere else. Not to me, and not on my threat.
You are the weakest link. Goodbye.
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I would love to see some SCOTUS action but I think that because we have an amendment, it will be continued to be used to produce anchor babies unless and until we can actually get the states to modify it.
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When a person here posts; " 14th Amendment be damned." shows this is an emotional issue that would take a united front to change. I don't see us uniting over much of anything anymore.
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MAJ Montgomery Granger
LOL! The 14th amendment is flawed and should be changed to exclude anchor baby scenarios. Amendments come and amendments go. Nothing new here. It's my opinion.
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MSG Stan Hutchison
MAJ Montgomery Granger - Do you foresee any changes to our Constitution anytime in the near future? I don't.
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MAJ Montgomery Granger
MSG Stan Hutchison - Perhaps not, but the SCOTUS will need to address the meaning, intent and purpose of the "natural born citizen" clause. There was a REASON for it, and that reason is counter to any anchor baby rationale. Almost anyone can become President, and we are still just one heartbeat away from an anchor baby (Kamala Harris) becoming President, should something happen to Joe Biden before Jan. 20. Let that sink in.
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