Posted on Jun 28, 2024
Jehovah's Witnesses Explain Their LGBTQ Views
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Only 3 verses? Wrong. This video is wrong in the first 60 seconds.
There are TONS of verses scattered throughout the Bible that says it is wrong (1 Corinthians 6:9-10 the words "abusers of themselves with mankind" means homosexuality which is listed right after the "effeminate" which should clue you in). God says that a man should leave his mother and father, cleave to a wife (not a husband), and become one flesh (Genesis 2:24).
If you want to know what that means, cleave means to marry, one flesh means to create children, a unified pairing. If you follow this further, the Bible upholds the institution of marriage ONLY for the creation of children. There is no other reason for marriage because there is no other reason for intercourse (Genesis 1:27-28).
The only time sex is not a sin is when it is in the institution of marriage with a husband (singular) and wife (singular) (1 Corinthians 7:2 - this scripture is also positive proof that polygamy is a sin).
My question is, if it's wrong for me as a man to simply look at a woman with lust, and that be considered by God as "adultery", why do gay people think it's okay to be even more sexually immoral while acting on it (Matthew 5:28)?
I'm a Baptist Preacher, definitely not Jehovah's Witness, but people seem to forget that almost everything we do which pleases the FLESH is a sin and for that reason alone, we need a savior. If you're not a sinner, you don't need a savior and Jesus made that clear when he said he came for the sinners, not the righteous (Luke 5:32).
Which, I have bad news for those who think they are righteous (Romans 3:23).
I want to quote that last verse, because it's worth reading for anyone who questions if they are a sinner or have a sinful nature: For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God (Romans 3:23). "All", is a very powerful word.
There are TONS of verses scattered throughout the Bible that says it is wrong (1 Corinthians 6:9-10 the words "abusers of themselves with mankind" means homosexuality which is listed right after the "effeminate" which should clue you in). God says that a man should leave his mother and father, cleave to a wife (not a husband), and become one flesh (Genesis 2:24).
If you want to know what that means, cleave means to marry, one flesh means to create children, a unified pairing. If you follow this further, the Bible upholds the institution of marriage ONLY for the creation of children. There is no other reason for marriage because there is no other reason for intercourse (Genesis 1:27-28).
The only time sex is not a sin is when it is in the institution of marriage with a husband (singular) and wife (singular) (1 Corinthians 7:2 - this scripture is also positive proof that polygamy is a sin).
My question is, if it's wrong for me as a man to simply look at a woman with lust, and that be considered by God as "adultery", why do gay people think it's okay to be even more sexually immoral while acting on it (Matthew 5:28)?
I'm a Baptist Preacher, definitely not Jehovah's Witness, but people seem to forget that almost everything we do which pleases the FLESH is a sin and for that reason alone, we need a savior. If you're not a sinner, you don't need a savior and Jesus made that clear when he said he came for the sinners, not the righteous (Luke 5:32).
Which, I have bad news for those who think they are righteous (Romans 3:23).
I want to quote that last verse, because it's worth reading for anyone who questions if they are a sinner or have a sinful nature: For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God (Romans 3:23). "All", is a very powerful word.
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SGT Michael Wells III
SGT Charlie Lee - The Bible also compels 3 things from saved believers:
- To tell the Truth
- To spread the Gospel (which means to say we're sinners, we need a savior, and Jesus is that savior)
- To love one another
If you saw a homosexual with his coat tail on fire, would you not warn him? Would you not tell him his coat tail is on fire? If you're saved, you know there is infinitely more value on the immortal soul than the worldly flesh. You know this because Jesus Christ spent more than 60% of his ministry driving this point home to his disciples and apostles. Why would you not warn him if his soul is on fire?
You see, I see that educating someone on the Bible is an act of love, not hate. No matter how much they get mad at me for mentioning their immortal soul is in danger, their gripe is with God, not me.
John 15:18: (Words of Christ) "If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you."
I also respect your beliefs and opinions. However, I also follow the commandment of love one another and believe that it is an act of love to let someone know that they are sinning without repentance. The most common way I see people fall into this trap of sinning without repentance is that they are misinformed on what the Bible says.
The live and let live, isn't exactly healthy. It's like watching the world burn and saying, "Everything is just fine!" No, no it's not lol.
Some like to use the "splinter in thine eye" scripture which is misapplied to judgement. This is talking about something the person knows is wrong, something they're in pain and repenting for. Calling out sin that someone is comfortable in and unrepenting for, is not something in their eye, this is a sin that either comforts them or they don't realize is a sin. This scripture was addressed to believers who thumped each other on the head who were already dealing with their own sin and trying to stop. This is very wrong.
When you tell someone they are sinning in accordance with the Bible, you're not judging them, God is - it's not your words that are being used for Judgement but God's words. Even if someone could use mental gymnastics to say "Well, that's still judging someone", well fine. I'll be judged on the Bible which says I'm saved regardless of my sin.
But people love quoting Matthew 7:1 in a means to tell a Christian to "shut up": "Judge not, that ye be not judged."
But they sure hate quoting the next verse: "For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again."
That means if I use the Bible to judge, the Bible will be used to Judge me.
I'm okay with that. Romans 10:9: "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved."
- To tell the Truth
- To spread the Gospel (which means to say we're sinners, we need a savior, and Jesus is that savior)
- To love one another
If you saw a homosexual with his coat tail on fire, would you not warn him? Would you not tell him his coat tail is on fire? If you're saved, you know there is infinitely more value on the immortal soul than the worldly flesh. You know this because Jesus Christ spent more than 60% of his ministry driving this point home to his disciples and apostles. Why would you not warn him if his soul is on fire?
You see, I see that educating someone on the Bible is an act of love, not hate. No matter how much they get mad at me for mentioning their immortal soul is in danger, their gripe is with God, not me.
John 15:18: (Words of Christ) "If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you."
I also respect your beliefs and opinions. However, I also follow the commandment of love one another and believe that it is an act of love to let someone know that they are sinning without repentance. The most common way I see people fall into this trap of sinning without repentance is that they are misinformed on what the Bible says.
The live and let live, isn't exactly healthy. It's like watching the world burn and saying, "Everything is just fine!" No, no it's not lol.
Some like to use the "splinter in thine eye" scripture which is misapplied to judgement. This is talking about something the person knows is wrong, something they're in pain and repenting for. Calling out sin that someone is comfortable in and unrepenting for, is not something in their eye, this is a sin that either comforts them or they don't realize is a sin. This scripture was addressed to believers who thumped each other on the head who were already dealing with their own sin and trying to stop. This is very wrong.
When you tell someone they are sinning in accordance with the Bible, you're not judging them, God is - it's not your words that are being used for Judgement but God's words. Even if someone could use mental gymnastics to say "Well, that's still judging someone", well fine. I'll be judged on the Bible which says I'm saved regardless of my sin.
But people love quoting Matthew 7:1 in a means to tell a Christian to "shut up": "Judge not, that ye be not judged."
But they sure hate quoting the next verse: "For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again."
That means if I use the Bible to judge, the Bible will be used to Judge me.
I'm okay with that. Romans 10:9: "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved."
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They don't like pagans or thinking people either....fu(+ them back! Get OFF my lawn!
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SGT Michael Wells III
I don't think it's a matter of not liking them, at least that's not the case for a majority of Bible adherents. The problem is the Bible warns about the influence from those that bring with them the wrong doctrine and how that corrupts their own doctrines. It's quite funny how the Bible was teaching about peer pressure before the schools caught on.
2 John 10-11: If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.
But more to the point, it's a matter of trying to keep themselves distant from the influences of sin. I do the same thing but in a different way. I know my weakness is women, and if I go to the beach I'm sinning. Jesus told us that merely looking at a woman and lusting is the same as adultery (Matthew 5:28). Therefor, I avoid beaches, swimming pools, and other events where women wear less clothing than they would underwear.
Point being, do I avoid women because I don't like them? LOL... No. Quite the opposite.
2 John 10-11: If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.
But more to the point, it's a matter of trying to keep themselves distant from the influences of sin. I do the same thing but in a different way. I know my weakness is women, and if I go to the beach I'm sinning. Jesus told us that merely looking at a woman and lusting is the same as adultery (Matthew 5:28). Therefor, I avoid beaches, swimming pools, and other events where women wear less clothing than they would underwear.
Point being, do I avoid women because I don't like them? LOL... No. Quite the opposite.
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