Posted on Apr 30, 2024
ATF’s Poorly Trained ‘Operators’ are a Threat to Public Safety - Liberty Park Press
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"... training for ATF’s Special Response Teams takes only two weeks, and ATF agents call themselves “operators” after they’ve completed the course."
SGT James Murphy, CPT Jack Durish,
SPC Gary Welch, SGT Mark Anderson,
CPL Douglas Chrysler, LTC Trent Klug,
CSM Charles Hayden, SMSgt David A Asbury,
SSG William Jones,
SSG Michael Noll, MAJ Dale E. Wilson, Ph.D.
SGM Erik Marquez, CW3 Harvey K.
SFC William Farrell, CPL Ronald Keyes Jr
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SGT James Murphy, CPT Jack Durish,
SPC Gary Welch, SGT Mark Anderson,
CPL Douglas Chrysler, LTC Trent Klug,
CSM Charles Hayden, SMSgt David A Asbury,
SSG William Jones,
SSG Michael Noll, MAJ Dale E. Wilson, Ph.D.
SGM Erik Marquez, CW3 Harvey K.
SFC William Farrell, CPL Ronald Keyes Jr
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ATF’s Poorly Trained ‘Operators’ are a Threat to Public Safety - Liberty Park Press
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Sort of misleading.
Yes, they attend a 15 day BASIC training, but continue training, much like the Army's AIT.
https://www.atf.gov/about-atf/special-response-teams
Yes, they attend a 15 day BASIC training, but continue training, much like the Army's AIT.
https://www.atf.gov/about-atf/special-response-teams
Special Response Teams | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives
Video of ATF Special Response Teams (SRT) -- An Elite Tactical Law Enforcement Team ATF’s Special Response Teams (SRTs) are elite tactical groups that rapidly respond to high-risk law enforcement operations and conduct criminal investigations that lead to the arrests of the most violent criminals in the United States. Their work includes search and arrest warrants, high-risk
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SFC Casey O'Mally
Your website provides no data to support your assertion. Aside from one offhanded comment of a probationary period "after specialized training," which is neither explained nor referenced anywhere else.
And even if that IS true, a 15 day course to cover ALL of the stuff they included? Ummm... No. Not for an "elite tactical unit."
Part-time operators? Again, not for an "elite tactical unit."
Maybe slightly misleading.... But not much.
And even if that IS true, a 15 day course to cover ALL of the stuff they included? Ummm... No. Not for an "elite tactical unit."
Part-time operators? Again, not for an "elite tactical unit."
Maybe slightly misleading.... But not much.
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MSG Stan Hutchison
SFC Casey O'Mally - I have seen some of the "Tac" units in action. Very professional.
I imagine they do not wish to advertise just what the training involves.
Sadly, I believe the ATF is a necessity, especially in today's world.
Wouldn't it be nice if everyone just obeyed the law?
I imagine they do not wish to advertise just what the training involves.
Sadly, I believe the ATF is a necessity, especially in today's world.
Wouldn't it be nice if everyone just obeyed the law?
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SFC Casey O'Mally
MSG Stan Hutchison
I believe the ATF is necessary, as well.
However they do not need "elite tactical units." If they believe that someone rises to that level, they have the FBI and/or local law enforcement resources.
Creating their own "elite" "operators" is a way to - as they themselves said - keep every other agency (even those with more extensive tactical training) out of their operations. I can only think of one reason to do this. Only one reason to create your own lesser trained door-kickers alrather than partner with higher trained door kickers from another agency.
It is the same reason raids happen without a single body cam. A single REQUIRED body cam.
You don't want anyone else to be able to see what you are doing.
I believe the ATF is necessary, as well.
However they do not need "elite tactical units." If they believe that someone rises to that level, they have the FBI and/or local law enforcement resources.
Creating their own "elite" "operators" is a way to - as they themselves said - keep every other agency (even those with more extensive tactical training) out of their operations. I can only think of one reason to do this. Only one reason to create your own lesser trained door-kickers alrather than partner with higher trained door kickers from another agency.
It is the same reason raids happen without a single body cam. A single REQUIRED body cam.
You don't want anyone else to be able to see what you are doing.
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MSG Stan Hutchison
SFC Casey O'Mally - I believe it is all about funding and staying relevant. Every government agency is always in competition with the other agencies. My wife worked for 20 years in GSA and saw a lot of this.
I do not know the answer for this.
I do not know the answer for this.
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