Posted on May 19, 2023
Newshour - Why limit breaking high temperatures are becoming more likely than ever - BBC Sounds
631
1
2
0
0
0
Posted >1 y ago
Responses: 2
Carbon Dioxide is essential for life to exist.
It's foolish to think that we as a species have any control over what the planet does climate wise.
It's equally foolish to bankrupt the world chasing a phenomenon that has been happening for eons, even before humans came to be.
Globally, we are at one of the coolest points in the last 10k years. That doesn't fit the narrative, so they won't tell you that.
It's foolish to think that we as a species have any control over what the planet does climate wise.
It's equally foolish to bankrupt the world chasing a phenomenon that has been happening for eons, even before humans came to be.
Globally, we are at one of the coolest points in the last 10k years. That doesn't fit the narrative, so they won't tell you that.
(1)
(0)
"Manmade Climate Change" is a cult religious mantra. It was never really anything more than that as it started out as political propaganda to serve the agenda of essentially anti-human cult activists. It has since been adopted by megadonor industrialists and their puppets in governments across the western world to push for greater control of the population, to include manufacturing consent for and participation in a new era of expanded industrial extraction to dwarf that which fueled the Industrial Revolution, along with all of the attendant environmental and ecological devastation.
Just look at what is being called for to "address" the so-called "crisis." Do the math, all of it, and look at current mining capacity versus what will be required to meet the so-called "Green" agenda's preferred technological production within the proposed timeframe. Current production capacity is vastly insufficient to fill that demand and is already far behind the demands from early adopters of the agenda dictates.
Look into the realities of what that means for copper mining and smelting, on the scale of the Chuquicamata mine in Chile - not just the superficial view of such places. Look into the real effects on the surrounding ecology. Some of the worst of the pollution from the previous industrial revolution, which began nearly 150 years ago, still plagues the areas which saw the highest levels of sustained extraction and smelting.
Now do the same for lithium extraction and learn about how the salts, desiccating in vast surface containment pools, get blown across the landscape, poisoning the soil for all life until it can be sufficiently washed out by rainfall. That process is likely to take decades, if not hundreds of years, to render the resultant wastelands habitable again, especially since most such mines are located in arid regions and deplete the natural water supply in the region just to bring the salts to the surface. Keep your eyes peeled, we have domestic lithium mine in Nevada now.
Now look at all the other raw materials which will need to be extracted and refined to make those two useful for the so-called "Green Agenda." The Industrial Revolution was largely powered by coal. Now look at the fact that electrical energy production from wind and solar will be summarily insufficient to power the industries required to extract and refine all of those materials. Fossil fuel extraction and consumption will have to INCREASE by a commensurate rate to satisfy those energy demands.
The priorities and incentives make it damningly clear that the "climate change" agenda is really all about moving massive amounts of wealth, to the detriment of every living thing on the face of the Earth.
Now consider the truth of our molecular biology, as well as the actual percentage of carbon dioxide which the "man-made climate change" cult would have you hyperventilating over.
Terrestrial life as we know it depends on atmospheric CO2 to exist. Full stop. Without it, plants cannot produce sugars and starches from photosynthesis, which are then stored internally and metabolized for cellular energy as needed. Those same molecules, produced by all plants from a combination of CO2 and H2O, using radiant energy from sunlight as an energy source, form the basis of the entire land-based biosphere's web of life. Without them, all sources of food cease to exist at all levels of the food chain in every terrestrial ecosystem. We are megafauna - we will die off long before the complete collapse of the biosphere, absent sufficient CO2 to support lush a vegetative habitat, which is necessary to produce everything which we are capable of consuming as food. You cannot fall back on nutritional supplements, which require a functional biosphere to produce and cannot replace actual food, or otherwise industrially manufacture your way out of that fact-based reality.
We have known, since at least 1962, that plant photosynthesis breaks down around 90 parts per million (ppm), or 0.009%, of atmospheric CO2 concentration.
https://www.nature.com/articles/193587a0
As of 1986, preindustrial atmospheric CO2 concentration was measured in ice core samples to be between 275–284 ppm, or 0.0275% and 0.0284%, during the period of 1550-1800 AD, with the lowest levels occurring during the coldest periods within that range.
https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/95JD03410
NOAA reports the average global atmospheric CO2 concentration as of May 2023 is approximately 424 ppm, or 0.0424%, though the specific concentration varies by location, based on weather and local emissions and reductions due to the natural carbon cycle. Put into context, that means that 99.9576% of our atmosphere is *NOT* CO2.
I'm finding it astonishing that I am summarily unable to find a breakdown of our atmospheric composition from NOAA. They have reams of data detailing aerosol and hydrocarbon particulates as well as numerous other gaseous carbon compounds, all listed rightly as "trace" compounds, yet basic data on overall atmospheric composition seems to not be measured or tracked by our national agency which is devoted to the study of our atmosphere and oceans. Nevertheless, the two largest components of our atmosphere are elemental nitrogen (N2), which accounts for at least 70% of our atmosphere, followed by elemental oxygen (O2) at around 20% by volume. This means that all other non-trace and trace gasses as well as all aerosols and other particulates must fit into the less than 10% of the remaining volume of atmosphere, which is dominated by water vapor.
The greatest single component of our atmosphere which drives the greenhouse effect is the gas known simply as water vapor, yet compositional data for water vapor seems to not be a priority of research or study by NOAA. In the climate change narrative, the effect of water vapor in regulating our climate seems to be completely insignificant despite what little data there is to be found at various altitudes clearly showing its concentration to be orders of magnitude higher than the trace amounts of gaseous CO2 in our atmosphere. A selection of two relevant data points from the Boulder, Colorado balloon data sets, from 1750m and 9250m - corresponding to just above the ground test station's mile-high position within the thermosphere and at roughly cruising altitude for commercial travel in the stratosphere, show concentrations of roughly 4270ppm (0.427%) and 28.95ppm (0.002895%), respectively. As we all know, the greatest concentration of water vapor in our atmosphere is bounded by the thermosphere, in which it is actually visible as a haze during direct daytime viewing of distant locations, or more spectacularly as cloud formations. To that end, we'll add three data points from the Hilo, Hawaii balloon data sets for comparison, with the new elevation being at the near-sea level elevation of 10m. Hilo's water vapor concentrations are 19,700ppm (1.97%) at 10m, 10,200ppm (1.02%) at 1750m, and 629ppm (0.0629%) at 9250m. Also to note, Boulder is located along the Rocky Mountain chain in the middle of the continental U.S. and has a semi-arid climate, as opposed to Hilo being located in the middle of the Pacific Ocean and having a tropical climate. As you might expect, the tropical locale surrounded by an ocean has markedly higher concentrations of water vapor in the atmosphere above it. Now, consider that approximately two-thirds of the Earth's surface is covered by oceans and that far less than one-third of its surface is mid-continental zones such as is found at Boulder.
To read data from IPCC climate projection models, you would think that clouds and humidity have no effect at all on the climate. Apparently, neither does variability of the Sun's solar cycle or Earth's orbital distance from it, which is known to fluctuate on very long intervals known in the modern age as the Milankovitch Cycle for the Serbian scientist who was able to complete his years-long calculations for our orbit's true eccentricity, obliquity and precession while he was held on furlough as an officer PoW during WWI.
When you exhale, your breath is contains approximately 40,000ppm of CO2, or 4% - this fact is the basis for the very old idea based on observation that your potted plants will thrive if you spend time talking to them each day. Your car exhaust, by contrast, contains between 50,000ppm and 120,000ppm of CO2, or 5-12% depending on a wide range of operational factors.
The logical conclusion to the "crisis" of CO2 emission is the slaughter of animal life and, eventually, ourselves. They're already starting with livestock - just look at what the Netherlands has done in the past year in enacting this insanity. The government's plan was to cut farming production by more than 40%. The Netherlands was only the second largest food exporter in the world, behind the United States.
That's your future under the "Green Agenda" - death on a global scale.
Just look at what is being called for to "address" the so-called "crisis." Do the math, all of it, and look at current mining capacity versus what will be required to meet the so-called "Green" agenda's preferred technological production within the proposed timeframe. Current production capacity is vastly insufficient to fill that demand and is already far behind the demands from early adopters of the agenda dictates.
Look into the realities of what that means for copper mining and smelting, on the scale of the Chuquicamata mine in Chile - not just the superficial view of such places. Look into the real effects on the surrounding ecology. Some of the worst of the pollution from the previous industrial revolution, which began nearly 150 years ago, still plagues the areas which saw the highest levels of sustained extraction and smelting.
Now do the same for lithium extraction and learn about how the salts, desiccating in vast surface containment pools, get blown across the landscape, poisoning the soil for all life until it can be sufficiently washed out by rainfall. That process is likely to take decades, if not hundreds of years, to render the resultant wastelands habitable again, especially since most such mines are located in arid regions and deplete the natural water supply in the region just to bring the salts to the surface. Keep your eyes peeled, we have domestic lithium mine in Nevada now.
Now look at all the other raw materials which will need to be extracted and refined to make those two useful for the so-called "Green Agenda." The Industrial Revolution was largely powered by coal. Now look at the fact that electrical energy production from wind and solar will be summarily insufficient to power the industries required to extract and refine all of those materials. Fossil fuel extraction and consumption will have to INCREASE by a commensurate rate to satisfy those energy demands.
The priorities and incentives make it damningly clear that the "climate change" agenda is really all about moving massive amounts of wealth, to the detriment of every living thing on the face of the Earth.
Now consider the truth of our molecular biology, as well as the actual percentage of carbon dioxide which the "man-made climate change" cult would have you hyperventilating over.
Terrestrial life as we know it depends on atmospheric CO2 to exist. Full stop. Without it, plants cannot produce sugars and starches from photosynthesis, which are then stored internally and metabolized for cellular energy as needed. Those same molecules, produced by all plants from a combination of CO2 and H2O, using radiant energy from sunlight as an energy source, form the basis of the entire land-based biosphere's web of life. Without them, all sources of food cease to exist at all levels of the food chain in every terrestrial ecosystem. We are megafauna - we will die off long before the complete collapse of the biosphere, absent sufficient CO2 to support lush a vegetative habitat, which is necessary to produce everything which we are capable of consuming as food. You cannot fall back on nutritional supplements, which require a functional biosphere to produce and cannot replace actual food, or otherwise industrially manufacture your way out of that fact-based reality.
We have known, since at least 1962, that plant photosynthesis breaks down around 90 parts per million (ppm), or 0.009%, of atmospheric CO2 concentration.
https://www.nature.com/articles/193587a0
As of 1986, preindustrial atmospheric CO2 concentration was measured in ice core samples to be between 275–284 ppm, or 0.0275% and 0.0284%, during the period of 1550-1800 AD, with the lowest levels occurring during the coldest periods within that range.
https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/95JD03410
NOAA reports the average global atmospheric CO2 concentration as of May 2023 is approximately 424 ppm, or 0.0424%, though the specific concentration varies by location, based on weather and local emissions and reductions due to the natural carbon cycle. Put into context, that means that 99.9576% of our atmosphere is *NOT* CO2.
I'm finding it astonishing that I am summarily unable to find a breakdown of our atmospheric composition from NOAA. They have reams of data detailing aerosol and hydrocarbon particulates as well as numerous other gaseous carbon compounds, all listed rightly as "trace" compounds, yet basic data on overall atmospheric composition seems to not be measured or tracked by our national agency which is devoted to the study of our atmosphere and oceans. Nevertheless, the two largest components of our atmosphere are elemental nitrogen (N2), which accounts for at least 70% of our atmosphere, followed by elemental oxygen (O2) at around 20% by volume. This means that all other non-trace and trace gasses as well as all aerosols and other particulates must fit into the less than 10% of the remaining volume of atmosphere, which is dominated by water vapor.
The greatest single component of our atmosphere which drives the greenhouse effect is the gas known simply as water vapor, yet compositional data for water vapor seems to not be a priority of research or study by NOAA. In the climate change narrative, the effect of water vapor in regulating our climate seems to be completely insignificant despite what little data there is to be found at various altitudes clearly showing its concentration to be orders of magnitude higher than the trace amounts of gaseous CO2 in our atmosphere. A selection of two relevant data points from the Boulder, Colorado balloon data sets, from 1750m and 9250m - corresponding to just above the ground test station's mile-high position within the thermosphere and at roughly cruising altitude for commercial travel in the stratosphere, show concentrations of roughly 4270ppm (0.427%) and 28.95ppm (0.002895%), respectively. As we all know, the greatest concentration of water vapor in our atmosphere is bounded by the thermosphere, in which it is actually visible as a haze during direct daytime viewing of distant locations, or more spectacularly as cloud formations. To that end, we'll add three data points from the Hilo, Hawaii balloon data sets for comparison, with the new elevation being at the near-sea level elevation of 10m. Hilo's water vapor concentrations are 19,700ppm (1.97%) at 10m, 10,200ppm (1.02%) at 1750m, and 629ppm (0.0629%) at 9250m. Also to note, Boulder is located along the Rocky Mountain chain in the middle of the continental U.S. and has a semi-arid climate, as opposed to Hilo being located in the middle of the Pacific Ocean and having a tropical climate. As you might expect, the tropical locale surrounded by an ocean has markedly higher concentrations of water vapor in the atmosphere above it. Now, consider that approximately two-thirds of the Earth's surface is covered by oceans and that far less than one-third of its surface is mid-continental zones such as is found at Boulder.
To read data from IPCC climate projection models, you would think that clouds and humidity have no effect at all on the climate. Apparently, neither does variability of the Sun's solar cycle or Earth's orbital distance from it, which is known to fluctuate on very long intervals known in the modern age as the Milankovitch Cycle for the Serbian scientist who was able to complete his years-long calculations for our orbit's true eccentricity, obliquity and precession while he was held on furlough as an officer PoW during WWI.
When you exhale, your breath is contains approximately 40,000ppm of CO2, or 4% - this fact is the basis for the very old idea based on observation that your potted plants will thrive if you spend time talking to them each day. Your car exhaust, by contrast, contains between 50,000ppm and 120,000ppm of CO2, or 5-12% depending on a wide range of operational factors.
The logical conclusion to the "crisis" of CO2 emission is the slaughter of animal life and, eventually, ourselves. They're already starting with livestock - just look at what the Netherlands has done in the past year in enacting this insanity. The government's plan was to cut farming production by more than 40%. The Netherlands was only the second largest food exporter in the world, behind the United States.
That's your future under the "Green Agenda" - death on a global scale.
The Limiting Carbon Dioxide Concentration for Photosynthesis - Nature
MANY reports1–5 indicate that plants in a closed system will reduce the concentration of carbon dioxide in the air to a minimum value between 50 and 100 p.p.m. Gabrielsen2 postulates “there exists a threshold value for carbon dioxide in photosynthesis, which for elder leaves is about 0.0090 volume per cent. Below the threshold no assimilation takes place. Thus it seems that only about two-thirds of the atmospheric carbon dioxide is available...
(0)
(0)
Read This Next