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Torture is an American value. US leaders from Bush to Biden are in denial
MY SAY: Torture is NOT an 'American value.' A handful of detainees were waterboarded (legal & approved at the time) in order to obtain valuable in formation that saved many lives. Waterboarding and other Enhanced Interrogation Techniques did not fit the internationally accepted definition of torture at the time they were used. Only after Hussein Obama became President were they arbitrarily and unilaterally added to a torture list.
MY SAY: Torture is NOT an 'American value.' A handful of detainees were waterboarded (legal & approved at the time) in order to obtain valuable in formation that saved many lives. Waterboarding and other Enhanced Interrogation Techniques did not fit the internationally accepted definition of torture at the time they were used. Only after Hussein Obama became President were they arbitrarily and unilaterally added to a torture list.
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Waterboarding is currently, was at the time, and always has been torture. Just because someone signed a memo, and we euphemised it as "enhanced interrogation" doesn't make it NOT torture.
Torture is not an American value. Which is why it is so appalling we resorted to it.
There is ZERO evidence that waterboarding or any other torture methods produced ANY new, ACCURATE, actionable intelligence. None. And even if it had, the ends do NOT justify the means.
Enhanced interrogation is a blight on the very soul of our nation.
Torture is not an American value. Which is why it is so appalling we resorted to it.
There is ZERO evidence that waterboarding or any other torture methods produced ANY new, ACCURATE, actionable intelligence. None. And even if it had, the ends do NOT justify the means.
Enhanced interrogation is a blight on the very soul of our nation.
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SFC Casey O'Mally
PO1 Jeff Chandler I don't believe 9/11 was a blight on anyone's soul. Those who committed and sponsored those acts held them to be in keeping with their ideals and values. Or, put another way, IMHO, their should were already so corrupt, that those actions had nothing left to blight.
By contrast, America, as a nation, both professes to be, and strives to be BETTER. We have held ourselves out to be, at various times, the "shining beacon on the hill," "leaders of the free world," have "1,000 points of light," and other lofty claims. We hold ourselves out to be - and legitimately strive to be - what right looks like. In the case of enhanced interrogation, we failed. Quite spectacularly.
And what I said was certainly not without context. I provided a lot of context.
By contrast, America, as a nation, both professes to be, and strives to be BETTER. We have held ourselves out to be, at various times, the "shining beacon on the hill," "leaders of the free world," have "1,000 points of light," and other lofty claims. We hold ourselves out to be - and legitimately strive to be - what right looks like. In the case of enhanced interrogation, we failed. Quite spectacularly.
And what I said was certainly not without context. I provided a lot of context.
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SFC Casey O'Mally
SFC Casey O'Mally *their souls. Not their should.
I corrected it TWICE and still it comes out "should"
I corrected it TWICE and still it comes out "should"
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