The media is LYING to you about George Floyd and Ma'Khia Bryant.

I am going to ask you a couple of questions.

a)
I want to ask are you Mexican decent ? I am half on my moms side. I spent time in mexico lived in Puebla right after I was done with the Navy. I thought I would never come back. Regardless all you hear about in DF is how dangerous it is Peligroso. Mexican on Mexican crime. They don’t say white people are attacking brown people down there. Tijuana is the same. And there are rich people in mexico. So to believe that all Mexico is poor is so funny. But again they do not seperate on white and brown lines. They might call you gringo American but you are far and few between down there. And I met Mexicans that are whiter then I am. SO what gives in this stupid ass color crap?

b)
If there was video of GF played where he stuck a gun to the pregnant lady he robbed in the home invasion with his homies, and his actual rap sheet, right before you see the one where he is looking all hunky dorey acting a bit high as a kite, you know chilling at the local liquor store using counterfeit money doing drugs resisting arrest and eventually pinned to the ground for 9 minutes in a very compromising position by a few cops who seem aloof ..i mean what would be your feelings be then?

c)
Do you think all the riots were justified? or would they have changed and been less dramatic if everyone knew not only the 9 minute video of GF, but the full life and rap sheet and criminal behavior including attacking with his friends a pregnant lady robbing her in a home invasion robbery with his gun to her stomach

My take away---I have watched videos of people of similar skin tone to GF that says the media and BLM made a marter of a criminal regardless of his skin color and all criminals now know that they have that ace card

d) Do you think the riots and reaction would of been more justified if for example the cops just randomly spotted GF ( who instead of a criminal record, had a record of volunteering? and attacked him as they thought he was about to rob an old lady he was helping across the street?

e) What would of been good therapy and government support to recuperate GF and actually support him out of all the doom and gloom that his skin had plagued him with in our society? would it been of good measure after the first drug offense or robbery to get him 1 special 24/7 counselors listeners supporters that ask him every day to change his ways, feed him groom him, in an apartment all to his own...while veterans who have honorable service went through literal hell starting at 18 years of age can not even get that?

I live in the Bay Area of Ca.

This place is crazy man. SF with all the rainbow flags you know the land of progress is home to the tenderloins open air drug market literally right outside the police station, death drug overdose of people strung out on street drugs in the streets laced with fentanyl, city policy to support drug addict with free needle support service!!! Google and combination of crime robberies car buglers home invasions in San Francisco or Oakland and see what kind of people in video are doing the robbing and shooting..they beat up elderly the attack woman...man so am I the bad guy here to try to understand this?

Another thing I here about from black people or brown people in this BLM thing is black on black or brown on brown crime...while they debate the defunding of police...

I am sure the people that want to defund the police in certain areas are the people who are like man yeh please leave so we can do more of what we want...

This criminal stuff like the open air drug markets look like you just stepped into Honduras...the kids running the show...man it is like really in your face...it is like a store...they are the vendors...and all the druggies just lay out and that does not account for all the other abuse

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Clips of a News story online
Collision in Oakland: Move to defund police meets homicide spike
Inspired by Black Lives Matter, Oakland set a goal to cut its police budget in half. But the reality is more complex, with support dwindling in neighborhoods most affected by police abuses.

Now Rojas prayed with Martinez’s mother and father, standing beneath the interlaced branches of a camphor tree. The coroner’s truck rumbled in.

Hours later, some 150 people gathered over Zoom for a scheduled meeting with an urgent topic: rethinking public safety in Oakland. But as the hours ticked by, very little was said about the triple shooting that claimed two lives earlier that day.


Instead, people popped onscreen to share bold, sometimes controversial ideas, such as keeping police out of homeless encampments and away from sexual assault cases, banning officers from responding to mental health crises and separating the police force from its 911 dispatch center.




Ginale Harris, a member of Oakland’s Reimagining Public Safety Task Force, was baffled. The night before, someone had fired 60 rounds outside her house, a few blocks from the shooting on 84th. Harris and her 12-year-old son had ducked for cover when they heard the bullets hitting cars and homes.
“You got 100 people coming on there, and nobody says one thing about it,” she said later, a sob catching in her throat.
Heeding the urgency of the Black Lives Matter movement, Oakland leaders committed over the summer to ultimately slash the Police Department’s budget in half, by about $150 million. The City Council created the 17-member Reimagining Public Safety Task Force to figure out how to meet this lofty goal to “defund the police.” They would write a draft proposal by December and present it to the council in March.


Then a wave of gun violence engulfed the flatlands in East Oakland, home to the city’s most impoverished neighborhoods. Homicides spiked. Policymakers — and even the most devoted reformers — had to confront a paradox: that the Black and Latino neighborhoods most threatened by police violence are also the ones demanding better and more consistent law enforcement.


Task force members agreed that police brutality against Black and brown people is too common, that gun violence needs to end and that the city needs more services to address the underlying causes of crime. But while advocates wanted swift, dramatic change, others felt conflicted. In neighborhoods with high crime and slow police response times, Black residents winced at what sometimes felt like preaching from outsiders.
A poll released last week by the Chamber of Commerce showed that, citywide, 58% of residents want to either maintain or increase the size of the police force. That figure climbs to 75% in District 7, an area of East Oakland where gunfire exploded this summer.

PO3 Aaron Hassay - Any crime GF commited previous to the day he was murdered is a separate crime and gets dealt with in court. It does not get tied into a suspected crime by a killer cop who wants to be judge, jury, and executioner. I do not agree with the riots that were carried out by white supremacists, criminals, and other agitators. I do agree with the 93% of the protests that were peaceful. Yes I am Mexican although I do not know what that has to do with this topic. There isn't any such thing as white on white, black on black, or brown on brown crime. It is just...crime.

1SG (Join to see) -

Cool Man. I would assume you say Mexican American. I don't know what your history with cops is but maybe it was not good or you were profiled.


I have been put on the curb a few times for no reason..questioned ...profiled... I would say as a trouble maker homeless guy in SF. I had no criminal issues, and never resisted...time went by and I was released..no struggle..nothing to hide from...

I consider myself more Mexican in culture and history than anything else.
I was raised around my 100% Mexican Grandma who emigrated legally in 1950s. We ate Nopales from the home garden. She taught me how to cook pinto beans. I mean I miss my Abuelita. Maria Salmon Orepeza :) I have a plan a dream to actually live in a latin country again.

But I think the United States is better at fulfilling its Constitutional Preamble then Mexico. " FEDERAL CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED MEXICAN STATES.
In the name of almighty God, supreme author and legislator of society. The general constituent congress of the Mexican nation in discharge of the duties imposed upon it by its constituents in order to fix their political independence, to establish and consolidate their liberty and to promote their prosperity and glory decree as follows:"

Is that also a stress that can not go on indefinitely to take in all the people from Mexico or wherever that are not being taken care of by their own government.

Sometimes I hear the BLM thing get talked about as in the Brown Lives Matter also

I have heard Mexican Americans who's family emigrated here legally get ticked off that people just skip that whole process and some instantly become recipients of benefits while the people already here are already struggling as we already now.

Wondering if you have any opinion to the current wave of immigration border policy, and how that may otherwise harm a already stressed system?

For example here is a stament in a Navy QOL report.

"Many recruits are deficient in basic academic skills. DON should provide mandatory
remedial training before first duty assignment for those who require it."

What are cops to expect from this situation where more desperate people are added?


"Heeding the urgency of the Black Lives Matter movement, Oakland leaders committed over the summer to ultimately slash the Police Department’s budget in half, by about $150 million. The City Council created the 17-member Reimagining Public Safety Task Force to figure out how to meet this lofty goal to “defund the police.” They would write a draft proposal by December and present it to the council in March.


Then a wave of gun violence engulfed the flatlands in East Oakland, home to the city’s most impoverished neighborhoods. Homicides spiked. Policymakers — and even the most devoted reformers — had to confront a paradox: that the Black and Latino neighborhoods most threatened by police violence are also the ones demanding better and more consistent law enforcement.


Task force members agreed that police brutality against Black and brown people is too common, that gun violence needs to end and that the city needs more services to address the underlying causes of crime."

PO3 Aaron Hassay - I didn't think after 20 years of service I would have to state that I am American. Yes I have been profiled and harassed by cops. I also have met good cops. I have a childhood friend who is a cop and as far as I know he is one of the many good ones. What I despise is bad cops which include "good cops" who do not report or stop the wrongdoing of bad cops.

ABSOLUTELY!