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LTC Stephen F.
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Thank you my friend Lt Col Charlie Brown for posting the unsurprising news that Michigan Democratic Attorney General Dana Nessel jailed 'Marlena Pavlos-Hackney, a restaurant owner from Holland, Michigan, targeted by authorities in the state for continuing to operate her business in violation of the coronavirus guidelines.'

Marlena’s Bistro supporters protest arrest of owner who defied COVID orders
Several hundred supporters, including West Michigan residents, Republicans seeking office in 2022 and “patriot” activists, held a rally outside Marlena’s Bistro and Pizzeria Saturday calling for the release of Marlena Pavlos-Hackney. A battle between a restaurant owner who refused to comply with public health orders holds larger implications for conservatives who said the arrest affirms their worst fears about “freedom” being under attack during a pandemic.
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SFC Casey O'Mally
SFC Casey O'Mally
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PO2 Joseph Chantiny -
A) I was born and raised in Michigan. I was a legal resident of the state for 40 years, and a voter for 22 (after turning 18, of course). My family is still in Michigan and I will likely be moving back in the next 5 years as my parents age. I still follow what happens in Michigan. I actually cried when I could no longer vote for Justin Amash. Don't tell me I "don't have enough time" as a Michigander to understand Michigan.

B) What happened in Muskegon is not a Michigan problem. It is an industry problem. And it happens all over the US and, indeed, all over the world. Accidents happen. No that is not an absolution, just a statement.

C) Michigan deferred much of state government to what would help Detroit. Which is why when Michigan was considering legalized gambling, they wrote the law to specifically authorize Detroit - and ONLY Detroit - to build Casinos. It was never about legalized gambling in Michigan, it was about giving Detroit casinos.

D) Detroit courted the Big 3 - heavily - and did not focus on diversification. By extension, Michigan heavily deferred to the big 3. This was true under blue governments and red ones.

E) Michigan state government focused heavily on Detroit metro, because Detroit metro had a bigger population than the rest of the state combined. It is the same problem Illinois and New York have. (This is no longer true after the exodus of Detroit, but it used to be true). Detroit metro leans VERY heavily blue, and as a result, even when Michigan had a Republican governor and state Congress, Democratic ideas, concepts, and programs were STILL able to take hold. Not often, I will admit, but it still happened.

F) But Detroit was always Democratic, used Democrat ideals and programs, and voted Democrat.

G) Because of Detroit's lack of diversification, encouraged and aided by Democratic city governments, when the Big 3 started having trouble, Detroit - already in trouble - started having SERIOUS trouble. By contrast, Grand Rapids, Michigan's second largest metro area, also had Big 3 ties - and strong ones. But they were also diversified in Steelcase, Amway, medical manufacturing, service industry, and hospitality. They didn't take the hit very hard and are continuing to thrive, with a fully emerged craft beer industry these days.

H) The big problem with the Democratic governments in Detroit was not that they were Democratic, OR that they invested heavily in the Big 3. It was that they never budgeted for a rainy day. They built programs designed to run on an ever increasing scale, with ever increasing budgets, assuming that the Big 3 would continue to grow and pay more and more taxes. They promised that the government would do more and more things for the people (essentially buying votes), and then at the SLIGHTEST glimpse of the Big 3 having any sort of trouble, their money base (and their credit base) crumbled.

THAT is why Detroit went under - bad financial management due to over-promising government help in order to buy votes. Which is, yes, due to DEMOCRATIC policies, not Republican ones.

But sure... I don't know anything about Michigan because I haven't lived there long enough.
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LTC Stephen F.
LTC Stephen F.
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Thank you for posting a well-reasoned response SFC Casey O'Mally -
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PO2 Joseph Chantiny
PO2 Joseph Chantiny
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SFC Casey O'Mally - I don't agree that it is a Democrat or Republican problem, that is it. But POLICIES of Republicans have cost an indeterminant damage to the environment, that no amount Democrat POLICIES can compare...time and time again. The state needs to spend $4 billion on roads and they won't and the longer the Republicans are in control nothing will be spent...because they would rather create financial disasters...stunning they haven't done more to voters rights. Only reason is that enough Republicans can't find any reason to doubt the votes.
Only 3 casinos are open in Detroit there are 20 other casinos in the state. Those 3 casinos were opened to prevent so much money flowing into Canada....seems like a good policy to me.
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SFC Casey O'Mally
SFC Casey O'Mally
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There are only 3 Casinos in Michigan. The rest are in foreign nations, as the Native Americans retain sovereignty within their borders. The rest of the casinos are "Indian Casinos" and not subject to Michigan law.

Technically, the three casinos in Detroit are no longer legal, either. The requirements for a Casino are A) within X number of miles of a state or nation that allows gambling (I believe 60, but not sure) and B) Have a population of at least 1 million people. Like I said - written so that ONLY Detroit would qualify. But Detroit no longer has a population of 1 million, so those casinos are now technically illegal. Of course, no one is going to DO anything about it, because... Detroit.

As for roads... those have been getting worse for a WHILE now, but have REALLY become bad over the last decade. And it is currently the Dems in control not spending on the roads, so your ire is poorly placed there.

And as for Flint... yes, Republicans screwed that up - but only after Flint Democrats had completely and totally run Flint into insolvency and the Republican governor - who was TRYING to practice small government (as is the Republican mantra) and let the city handle itself without "big brother" stepping in - was FORCED to implement an economic council to create and implement cost-saving plans. Switching the water supply was just such a plan, which proved to be catastrophic. But.....

2 things to point out. First, if the Democrats hadn't run Flint into the ground in the first place, this would not have happened. Second, if the Democrats in Flint had bothered to maintain and upgrade their pipes, switching the water supply would not have caused a problem. Now... that does NOT absolve the Republican decision makers who switched the water source. And it CERTAINLY does not absolve them or the governor once the problem was discovered and they covered up and then reacted too slow. I am not at all trying to say the Republicans in this situation are blameless. Just pointing out that the Democrats handed them a shit sandwich to begin with. The fact that the Republicans then decided to add a slice of lettuce and a slice of tomato and feed the shit sandwich to the people as a SLT is still a fact that the Republicans fed the people a shit sandwich.
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LTC John Griscom
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What's up with the dems in Michigan?
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Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen
Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen
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People, not just Dems.
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SGT Lorenzo Nieto
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She is a power hungry women, the governor of Michigan got shot down every time she tried to lock us down so she found a loophole turn to the health department you can not fight the health department the bottom line is you piss me off talk about me on tv I’ll fry your ass.
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Lt Col Charlie Brown
Lt Col Charlie Brown
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Hopefully, the lawsuit will help
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PO2 Joseph Chantiny
PO2 Joseph Chantiny
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....this is a cat fight, nothing more. It is stunning you are encouraging it.
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