Posted on Jan 23, 2020
Voter Fraud: Exposing Fraud & Closing Loopholes—Adrian Norman | American Thought Leaders
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I truly don't understand the resistance to showing an ID to vote. We have to show ID to buy booze. We have to show ID to get in a nightclub. We have to show ID to get on a plane. What's the big deal?
There can't be that many dead people voting, can there?
There can't be that many dead people voting, can there?
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Maj Kevin "Mac" McLaughlin
So if this is all about black people who are in urban areas who don't get DLs because they don't drive, how do they vote? Are we saying they only take that one time a year/or every 2-4 years to find their way to a local voting precinct to vote, but asking them to go get a free ID card once maybe every ten years is too much of a constraint? I'm sorry but I don't buy that excuse, and I would even say that is insulting to say any class of people is incapable of performing these simple acts.
Also, I'm not sure what the anecdote about needing to get a drivers license at 16 to get into town has to do with anything. I didn't get mine until I was 17 (I lived overseas prior to that), but my parents still did not allow me to drive their car. My father bought his own car when he was a teenager and believed it was my responsibility to do the same if I wanted to drive. I decided to use my bike instead and would regularly ride up to 25 miles to get to my job. By the time I graduated college and finally bought my first car, I was a cycling monster.
Also, I'm not sure what the anecdote about needing to get a drivers license at 16 to get into town has to do with anything. I didn't get mine until I was 17 (I lived overseas prior to that), but my parents still did not allow me to drive their car. My father bought his own car when he was a teenager and believed it was my responsibility to do the same if I wanted to drive. I decided to use my bike instead and would regularly ride up to 25 miles to get to my job. By the time I graduated college and finally bought my first car, I was a cycling monster.
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Maj Kevin "Mac" McLaughlin - Almost all of the arguments against this requirement are specious or anecdotal. The only people I see having real difficulty with this are the elderly. especially folks in retirement homes that don't get out much.
People figure out how to show ID for booze.
People figure out how to show ID to get government benefits.
People have to show two forms of ID (or a passport) to get a job.
It is straight bullshit that this is a "poll tax".
People figure out how to show ID for booze.
People figure out how to show ID to get government benefits.
People have to show two forms of ID (or a passport) to get a job.
It is straight bullshit that this is a "poll tax".
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Maj Kevin "Mac" McLaughlin
Exactly... And as I tried to point out, the Democrat Party is usually pretty good at mobilizing for those anecdotal needs. Speaking to those you mentioned
- especially folks in retirement homes that don't get out much. - But they can make it to a voting booth? Why not an ID card facility?
- People figure out how to show ID for booze. - Maybe serve free booze to all those who get a national ID?
- People figure out how to show ID to get government benefits. - Which probably covers a majority of the example cited in all the other anecdotes.
- People have to show two forms of ID (or a passport) to get a job. - So I guess that leaves the remaining 3.5% if the unemployment numbers are correct. Seems to me that they have more time on their hands now to go get the ID.
- It is straight bullshit that this is a "poll tax". - Can't call it a tax if they decide to make it free to those who can legitimately claim they cannot afford it.
If anyone has any other anecdotes or legitimate issues that cannot be address in requiring a national ID, please chime in.
- especially folks in retirement homes that don't get out much. - But they can make it to a voting booth? Why not an ID card facility?
- People figure out how to show ID for booze. - Maybe serve free booze to all those who get a national ID?
- People figure out how to show ID to get government benefits. - Which probably covers a majority of the example cited in all the other anecdotes.
- People have to show two forms of ID (or a passport) to get a job. - So I guess that leaves the remaining 3.5% if the unemployment numbers are correct. Seems to me that they have more time on their hands now to go get the ID.
- It is straight bullshit that this is a "poll tax". - Can't call it a tax if they decide to make it free to those who can legitimately claim they cannot afford it.
If anyone has any other anecdotes or legitimate issues that cannot be address in requiring a national ID, please chime in.
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Maj Kevin "Mac" McLaughlin - A quibble.
Elderly people in retirement homes often can vote because they get bussed to the poll site.
Elderly people in retirement homes often can vote because they get bussed to the poll site.
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