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Western Society has become very disconnected from end of life. That leads us to make some very poor choices. Often people are not offered hospice care until less than 24 hours before they die. That's terrible. Some people ask for "everything to be done to save a loved one" when if they really knew, they wouldn't. We are afraid of death, afraid to grieve because we have put it at a distance.
LTC Stephen F. Maj Michael Gravier SMSgt Minister Gerald A. "Doc" Thomas COL Mikel J. Burroughs Maj William W. 'Bill' Price Maj Bill Smith, Ph.D. TSgt Joe C. CPL Dave Hoover
SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL MSgt Robert "Rock" Aldi SP5 Jeannie Carle SPC Margaret Higgins Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth Cpl Scott McCarroll Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen
LTC Stephen F. Maj Michael Gravier SMSgt Minister Gerald A. "Doc" Thomas COL Mikel J. Burroughs Maj William W. 'Bill' Price Maj Bill Smith, Ph.D. TSgt Joe C. CPL Dave Hoover
SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL MSgt Robert "Rock" Aldi SP5 Jeannie Carle SPC Margaret Higgins Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth Cpl Scott McCarroll Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen
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LTC David Brown
Some people ask for “ everything to be done” because they are dependent on the loved ones retirement etc. Hospitals get in a bind because of end of life issues. We spend more on health care in our last year of life because the idea “ above all do no harm “ creates problems. Suppose 90 year old grandpa has congestive heart failure. He took a turn for the worse. By admitting him to ICU and tweeting meds, reducing fluids etc the docs can keep him alive, but for how long. The proper answer maybe making him comfortable and allowing him to die, however, suppose he doesn’t die but is then in worse shape? A Guilt ridden family member can reek havoc. It is a royal great problem that is devouring untold resources.
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Lt Col Charlie Brown
LTC David Brown - That's why medical decisions as much as possible should be made in advance. Both my husband and I have discussed at length, our doctor has documents on file for both of us and our son who will manage affairs should we be disabled and unable to decide things for ourselves also knows our wishes. No guarantees but it helps.
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LTC David Brown
Lt Col Charlie Brown - very good thinking. One of the issues that plagued me was DNR orders for patients coming to the OR. The thought was DNR should be suspended because Anesthesia role is basically a resuscitation process. The surgeons would not discuss this with patients or their families. So ICU medical management for a day or so may make for a good out come. The family would say “dad didn’t want to be on a ventilator “. So was I supposed to pull the tube and watch him die after a successful surgical procedure? None of this seemed to enter surgeons minds let alone a discussion with the family. Differant Anesthesia attending had differant views and it was a mess.
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Very well done... an excellent explanation...
Much better than the psycho-babble about closure...
It’s acceptance...
Much better than the psycho-babble about closure...
It’s acceptance...
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