Posted on Apr 5, 2018
Trump, Republicans, Rural Kansas, and Schadenfreude
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Posting this because it speaks to me having been born in Coffeyville, Kansas. 1LT Sandy Annala LCDR Rabbah Rona Matlow 1stSgt Nelson Kerr PO1 William "Chip" Nagel MSgt Michael Bischoff MAJ James Woods SGT (Join to see) COL Mikel J. Burroughs SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth SSgt Michelle Chadwick Maj Kim Patterson Capt Gregory Prickett SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL SFC Shirley Whitfield Cynthia Croft
Trump, Republicans, Rural Kansas, and Schadenfreude
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Yeah. The combine costs a fortune. The steel and aluminum to make it don’t cost doodly squat.
Does the steel and aluminum value in a BMW have anything to do with the $100,000 sticker.
NO. It’s a foolish article attempting to ....and succeeding apparently.. to get folks who haven’t the faintest notion of what it costs for materials excited about Trumps perfectly reasonable tariffs.
Everyone put your depends back on please.
Well, just more proof that there are an awful lot of educated idiots out here.
Anyone wants to off the cuff call me a fool should look at scrap metal values.
I just scrapped a huge 50lb solid chunk of cast aluminum clutch housing.
I got $25. That’s right 50¢ a lb. if the price of aluminum went up 50% then the aluminum actually used went up by about nothing..
The part is quite literally nothing more than a cast piece of aluminum with holes drilled in it..
The price of the part? $4000. What the hell does that have to do with the price of aluminum?
Nothing.
If the farmers didn’t figure they needed to trade their damned $500,000 combines every three years then that would give them a lot less to worry about.
As to the wild income variation reported? Utter hogwash. Beyond foolishness.
Beware of reporters with agendas.. They are running very inexpensive used manure spreaders at a great profit.
And they know it very well.
Does the steel and aluminum value in a BMW have anything to do with the $100,000 sticker.
NO. It’s a foolish article attempting to ....and succeeding apparently.. to get folks who haven’t the faintest notion of what it costs for materials excited about Trumps perfectly reasonable tariffs.
Everyone put your depends back on please.
Well, just more proof that there are an awful lot of educated idiots out here.
Anyone wants to off the cuff call me a fool should look at scrap metal values.
I just scrapped a huge 50lb solid chunk of cast aluminum clutch housing.
I got $25. That’s right 50¢ a lb. if the price of aluminum went up 50% then the aluminum actually used went up by about nothing..
The part is quite literally nothing more than a cast piece of aluminum with holes drilled in it..
The price of the part? $4000. What the hell does that have to do with the price of aluminum?
Nothing.
If the farmers didn’t figure they needed to trade their damned $500,000 combines every three years then that would give them a lot less to worry about.
As to the wild income variation reported? Utter hogwash. Beyond foolishness.
Beware of reporters with agendas.. They are running very inexpensive used manure spreaders at a great profit.
And they know it very well.
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Yep. Some valid points in her story that reflects decades of an issue that has been impacting rural America.
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The metal Tariffs went into effect March 23rd. According to this author 12 days later farmer's are in collapse and middle America is shuttering the shops on Main Street. And the root of it all is the Republican supposed hatred of the LGBT community.
If only the BS in this article could be spread on my hay fields.
If only the BS in this article could be spread on my hay fields.
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MAJ James Woods
Did we read the same article? Are you gonna say her self-identification as a bi-sexual makes her biased too?
The author claimed Trump's tariffs and China's retaliatory tariffs are expected to make things for the rural agriculture industry worse after already experience about of decade of crop prices dropping and production costs growing. Rural producers are in a frenzy in the same way auto producers and those watching the stock market have been in a frenzy.
The rippling effect she mentions isn't a short term result of tariffs but have been a long term effect of Red State politics for years. A pending trade war will only add to an already burdened economic environment.
This is the middle class America that supports Trump and they are still waiting to see changes in policies that benefits them, the family businesses.
The author claimed Trump's tariffs and China's retaliatory tariffs are expected to make things for the rural agriculture industry worse after already experience about of decade of crop prices dropping and production costs growing. Rural producers are in a frenzy in the same way auto producers and those watching the stock market have been in a frenzy.
The rippling effect she mentions isn't a short term result of tariffs but have been a long term effect of Red State politics for years. A pending trade war will only add to an already burdened economic environment.
This is the middle class America that supports Trump and they are still waiting to see changes in policies that benefits them, the family businesses.
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Maj John Bell
MAJ James Woods - Yeah I think I did read the same article. Their are four paragraphs about the Earth shattering effects 12 days of tariffs are having on the farmers of middle America. I am one of those farmers. I go to my grange hall meetings. I and my fellow farmers are concerned, but definitely not shaken to our core. We also recognize that China cannot be given a free license to violate trade agreement after trade agreement after trade agreement. We don't feel the US owes us and we're willing to do our part.
In so far as we can, our Grange Hall has been boycotting Chinese goods, and things made with Chinese steel for well over a decade. It's not hard, their products are cheap crap designed to fail, and their steel is even worse. Most of us dairy producers are buying American or Eastern European equipment that last with very few repairs (done by ourselves) for decades . Many Farm equipment managers have already started to wean off of Chinese steel because it doesn't hold up. Hungary and Bulgaria are now producing some of the best dairy equipment in the world and their tractor and combine business is starting to come on line, with US manufacturing plants coming on line in the next five to ten years.
What I saw was four paragraphs consisting of 29 lines about as yet unrealized catastrophic results of an as yet unseen trade war from a fledgling set of tariffs designed to send China a message to "shape up, we mean it this time."; followed by 8 paragraphs consisting of 41 lines about the author kind of feels bad ("torn"), but we're getting what we deserve, because she hasn't been treated the way she wants to be treated. That tells me what her agenda is. I and the vast majority of my fellow farmers could not care less with whom she sleeps. I don't even see how her sexual preferences is germane to the first four paragraphs of the article; which is what I thought she wanted to discuss.
The trade deficit nation is always bargaining from the stronger position. According to GeoPolitical Futures, as of the end of 2016, the United States is the buyer of over 2/3rds of China's market for exported goods. China only produces 21.8% of our imports. Cut trade to zero between us and which nation hurts worse. China is not the invincible Colossus people think it is, and we're strong enough to suck it up until they start behaving themselves.
In so far as we can, our Grange Hall has been boycotting Chinese goods, and things made with Chinese steel for well over a decade. It's not hard, their products are cheap crap designed to fail, and their steel is even worse. Most of us dairy producers are buying American or Eastern European equipment that last with very few repairs (done by ourselves) for decades . Many Farm equipment managers have already started to wean off of Chinese steel because it doesn't hold up. Hungary and Bulgaria are now producing some of the best dairy equipment in the world and their tractor and combine business is starting to come on line, with US manufacturing plants coming on line in the next five to ten years.
What I saw was four paragraphs consisting of 29 lines about as yet unrealized catastrophic results of an as yet unseen trade war from a fledgling set of tariffs designed to send China a message to "shape up, we mean it this time."; followed by 8 paragraphs consisting of 41 lines about the author kind of feels bad ("torn"), but we're getting what we deserve, because she hasn't been treated the way she wants to be treated. That tells me what her agenda is. I and the vast majority of my fellow farmers could not care less with whom she sleeps. I don't even see how her sexual preferences is germane to the first four paragraphs of the article; which is what I thought she wanted to discuss.
The trade deficit nation is always bargaining from the stronger position. According to GeoPolitical Futures, as of the end of 2016, the United States is the buyer of over 2/3rds of China's market for exported goods. China only produces 21.8% of our imports. Cut trade to zero between us and which nation hurts worse. China is not the invincible Colossus people think it is, and we're strong enough to suck it up until they start behaving themselves.
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