Posted on Mar 26, 2018
New Trump order would ban most transgender troops from serving
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For those saying this decision is creating havoc and harm to the military and its families, I say to you. The decision to even bring the LGBT community into the decision making of how the US Military is ran is what caused the chaos. Fighters without baggage is what our military needs. All that other BS is neither valuable and/or necessary to the mission accomplishment ability of the war fighting mission of this country. We are not the Social Experiment of the LBGT community.
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Sgt (Join to see)
You are essentially saying you don't care enough about your subordinates that any inconvienence of your perfect world view distrups your leadership. Better step up your game Sarge.
You're also right, the military is not for social experiments, but it's pretty good for social change.
You're also right, the military is not for social experiments, but it's pretty good for social change.
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Sgt (Join to see) - you poor soul. I have been doing this job a very long time. I do so because I know it is an imperfect world. What I am saying is that I care more for soldiers who join the military only to fight off the worlds bad guys that hinder a democracy and our republic. Those who join only to claim benefits and special class because of social/political agendas are a waste of the time training and effort to the mission of the military. Social Change! Take that shit to an entity that is not in need of training people to kill the bad guy. In case your tiny heart is unaware, The mission of the military is to train one to take the life of another, then another, then another and return home with the ability to cope with normalcy. Harsh definition, but true. For those we are not training for that very mission, we train others to SUPPORT those that do. We do not do breast augmentations because it will make one feel better about themselves, as such, we do not do penis enlargements to boast ones ego. In that we should NOT be doing sex changes because one is confused about who they are. This takes an individual out of the fight mentally and physically. Like it or not, a new reckoning will happen and the military will return to a fighting force with the sole purpose to be disciplined and able to respond to the world in a moments notice ready to fight.
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If you cannot deploy or you condition will make you undeployable in the near future then you should not be allowed in or allowed to remain. That is not just for people confused about their sex but for any condition that will cause you to be non deployable. It really is not that hard to understand. If you look at the reasons anyone cannot join the armed forces there are hundreds of conditions/reasons/diagnoses etc. that keep people from entering or remaining.
Time to grow up, accept responsibility for decisions made, acknowledge the consequences of those decisions and move on. The armed forces are here to defend the nation and project force globally not support your life decisions. If you cannot deploy you cannot execute the mission. If you need special conditions it creates inequity in the force and between peers/equals. That doesn't work.
Time to grow up, accept responsibility for decisions made, acknowledge the consequences of those decisions and move on. The armed forces are here to defend the nation and project force globally not support your life decisions. If you cannot deploy you cannot execute the mission. If you need special conditions it creates inequity in the force and between peers/equals. That doesn't work.
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1SG Dennis Hicks
So many can't use critical thinking to come to the same conclusions as you, they are to wrapped up in their own personal hate of all things Trump and can't see the Forrest for the trees.
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Will be interesting to see how this plays out. My understanding was that DoD had a deadline to do “XYZ” and missed it
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CPT (Join to see)
I can’t say MAJ Montgomery Granger. I feel that Gen Mattis would have given it his effort whether he believed in it or not
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1stSgt Nelson Kerr
they had a dead ;line and made it, trump just did not like the studies results. Trump failed to meet a judges deadline to name the "experts" he consulted with the original ban though. If the experts exit anywhere but trump imagination
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