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Captain Konrad lays into the Navy again. This time he uses Admiral King's order to the fleet just prior to WW2 as a good solution to the evident systemic problems the USN has regarding shiphandling.
A King's Orders To The U.S. Navy – gCaptain
Posted from gcaptain.com
Naval/Maritime History
Sailors
Maritime
Posted 7 y ago
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It all comes down to too many things to get done, not enough time, not enough training. It isn't a great accomplishment to be able to do a million things averagely, and can't do the most basic thing horribly... My former community has a black eye, rightly so, and one that has been in the making for years. The Naval War College did a study on SWOS in a Box in 2007 and found that it was a disaster. So, even senior naval leaders tell even higher naval leaders, and nothing was done for 10 years. Unfortunately, 17 sailors' lives had to be lost before they hopefully realize that something needs to change...
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Maybe it's me but WTF does an Aviator know about being a ship's Master? I get the Tom Cruise I get to wear a cool leather jacket horseshit. But just because you can fly a plane off a carrier doesn't make you an EXPERT on commanding a ship. It is the same in the Army. You may be a HOOAH Airborne Stud - but you don't know shit about how to deloy and fight an Armored Cavalry Squadron. Time for all this ticket punching crap to stop. Sailors are being killed. Surface ships should be Commanded by Surface Warfare Officers. Again, just the (some would say) uninformed opinion of an Army Officer
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PO1 Don Gulizia
SN Greg Wright - My only point was that there are other "pilots" besides definition "c." When I first read the LTCs comment, I thought he was making a joke. But just in case, added the M-W dictionary definition. Thanks.
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LTC Orlando Illi
PO1 Don Gulizia - I was referring to that narcissistic Tom Cruise type Naval Aviator Pilot. I served with one and I was singularly unimpressed with his arrogance and disregard be for other mere mortals that were not Naval Aviators. While I do respect the courage and skill it takes to land a jet on a carrier - it is no more courageous then sitting on an M1 MBT in the Iraqi desert facing an attack by Soviet T-72 or jumping into the night on an Airfield in Panama at 600 AGL at 130 knots
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PO1 Don Gulizia
LTC Orlando Illi - If you feel that way about Naval Aviators, I can't wait for you to meet a SWO!
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LTC Orlando Illi
PO1 Don Gulizia - Actually I have much respect for SWO. Their job is difficult even in the best sea conditions and can be terrifying in the worst. My problem with Naval Aviators in general is their institutionalized arrogance and narcissism. One does not need to feel superior to anyone else in order to justify ones service. As an side - My Dad was a Chief Machinist Mate on Fletcher Class Destroyers in WW-2. Here is is on the fantail of one in July 1945 somewhere in the Pacific.
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Thanks! Intrusive command and the practice of telling subordinates HOW to do something is not limited to the Navy. Patton has a related quote, beginning, "Never tell people how to do things..."
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