Posted on Aug 20, 2017
United States decides to support Diem - Aug 20, 1954 - HISTORY.com
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The Coup, SP5 Mark Kuzinski puts US policy into jeopardy every time. Doesn't often change the outcome of the support machine if it has already started rolling though. Just points out contradictory foreign policy.
Egypt is the most recent coup I believe where we continued our support.
Thanks for the article. LTC Stephen F.,SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth,SGT (Join to see),SFC (Join to see),SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL,LTC Gavin Heater,LTC John Mohor
Egypt is the most recent coup I believe where we continued our support.
Thanks for the article. LTC Stephen F.,SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth,SGT (Join to see),SFC (Join to see),SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL,LTC Gavin Heater,LTC John Mohor
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SSgt Boyd Herrst
LTC Bill Koski: I think some coups have been working up to a breaking point and then s’thing happens and they back off for some reason..
Possib’ly a show of force by an Ally
With a like-think process may be a deterrent.. that ally goes away and the coup machine goes into getting set up again because it’s mechanization has changed.. leaders have retired or some workers been found out by the coup.. worried they may have been revealed they go into hiding, distance themselves from acquaintances .. (possible loss of trust or fear of being observed)..
Many different Sit-reps..
It goes on in organizations too..
I’ve visited other canteens within my own org. And if I had not been seen in a while .. they “shut up” like a clam.. I was at a canteen a few times and was told i’ve been observed communicating with somebody the group suspects of being on the side of those at top
In District and Department.. who were observing the Post for some
Alleged nefarious activity(Ies). Turned out it was true.. that’s far as I need to go.. certain ones relieved of positions.. that were supposed to be elected.. (what happened is the
Ol’ boys gang wasn’t cooperating and the elected one didn’t hang in..
He was trying to do it right.. so he resigned and took his evidence with him[ they tried to indict him with DEPT for unauthorized removal of property]...mainly to protect what was wrong to be done. Since he now had it and turned it, they tried to block it’s use (fruit of the poison tree scenario.. taken w/o authorizAtion ). So a new guy was appointed and it was too early in the year.. actually it’s possible but
Only until an election up to so many days permitted.. It wasn’t court so It was used. We kept it quiet as possible.. them guys laid low for a while and resurfaced elsewhere a few years later.. they didn’t run for any position and we’re not asked.. their bad reps made..
people were cordial to a point.. and that’s far as it went. Nothing confidential discussed.. There is supposed to be a presumption of innocence.. unfortunately the evidence was there on the table of the malfeasance.. Post was on probation until it was cleaned up and a new command structure set up.. according to the manual of procedure ..
There been good governments overthrown and crooked ones installed and it was done surreptuosly.. and little by little .
And once enough were in, the leaders were bounced by those they brought in to appointed
Positions.. A senate /legislature
Abandoned by illegetimate governments .. Some believed to be majority leaders were. Jailed and/or executed.. (suicide claimed).. body disposed of in accordance with religious ritual/tenets.... usually by cremation
To avoid detection of the cause(Es)
Best way is by stabbing.. hard to find the wound.. poisoning is usually detectable.. venoms
Of turrantulas and poisonous snakes like The black mamba of Africa have been used.. A fave of
Assasins.. Some say I read to much.. I read of autopsies of cremated corpses, and no chemical found I think of all the different animal venoms that would not show in a corpse.. Seriously.. if an assasin is going to take out somebody and use venom..
They got to remember to cremate the remains.. And using the third man to remove the actual assasin.
I believe Hillary has done that..
one less hostile witness that can turn on her.. she’s not the only one.
Possib’ly a show of force by an Ally
With a like-think process may be a deterrent.. that ally goes away and the coup machine goes into getting set up again because it’s mechanization has changed.. leaders have retired or some workers been found out by the coup.. worried they may have been revealed they go into hiding, distance themselves from acquaintances .. (possible loss of trust or fear of being observed)..
Many different Sit-reps..
It goes on in organizations too..
I’ve visited other canteens within my own org. And if I had not been seen in a while .. they “shut up” like a clam.. I was at a canteen a few times and was told i’ve been observed communicating with somebody the group suspects of being on the side of those at top
In District and Department.. who were observing the Post for some
Alleged nefarious activity(Ies). Turned out it was true.. that’s far as I need to go.. certain ones relieved of positions.. that were supposed to be elected.. (what happened is the
Ol’ boys gang wasn’t cooperating and the elected one didn’t hang in..
He was trying to do it right.. so he resigned and took his evidence with him[ they tried to indict him with DEPT for unauthorized removal of property]...mainly to protect what was wrong to be done. Since he now had it and turned it, they tried to block it’s use (fruit of the poison tree scenario.. taken w/o authorizAtion ). So a new guy was appointed and it was too early in the year.. actually it’s possible but
Only until an election up to so many days permitted.. It wasn’t court so It was used. We kept it quiet as possible.. them guys laid low for a while and resurfaced elsewhere a few years later.. they didn’t run for any position and we’re not asked.. their bad reps made..
people were cordial to a point.. and that’s far as it went. Nothing confidential discussed.. There is supposed to be a presumption of innocence.. unfortunately the evidence was there on the table of the malfeasance.. Post was on probation until it was cleaned up and a new command structure set up.. according to the manual of procedure ..
There been good governments overthrown and crooked ones installed and it was done surreptuosly.. and little by little .
And once enough were in, the leaders were bounced by those they brought in to appointed
Positions.. A senate /legislature
Abandoned by illegetimate governments .. Some believed to be majority leaders were. Jailed and/or executed.. (suicide claimed).. body disposed of in accordance with religious ritual/tenets.... usually by cremation
To avoid detection of the cause(Es)
Best way is by stabbing.. hard to find the wound.. poisoning is usually detectable.. venoms
Of turrantulas and poisonous snakes like The black mamba of Africa have been used.. A fave of
Assasins.. Some say I read to much.. I read of autopsies of cremated corpses, and no chemical found I think of all the different animal venoms that would not show in a corpse.. Seriously.. if an assasin is going to take out somebody and use venom..
They got to remember to cremate the remains.. And using the third man to remove the actual assasin.
I believe Hillary has done that..
one less hostile witness that can turn on her.. she’s not the only one.
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First we supported him and then we didn't - the times they have been a changing SP5 Mark Kuzinski Yes President Eisenhower approved a National Security Council paper titled “Review of U.S. Policy in the Far East.” This paper supported Secretary of State Dulles’ view that the United States should support Ngô Đình Diệm, while encouraging him to broaden his government and establish more democratic institutions.
Of course now deceased POTUS JFK withdrew support for Diem in November 1963 in the same month he was assassinated. There is a bitter irony in President Ngo Dinh Diem and his brother being captured and killed in early November while JFK was killed on Friday, November 22, 1963.
Can you imagine the outcry if our leaders were summarily executed because they failed to keep significant campaign promises?
FYI COL Mikel J. Burroughs LTC Stephen C. Capt Seid Waddell Capt Tom Brown SFC William Farrell SSgt Robert Marx Maj Marty Hogan PO1 William "Chip" Nagel SPC Margaret Higgins SSG William Wall MSgt Jason McClish AN Christopher Crayne LTC Bill Koski Sgt Trevor Barrett SPC Tom DeSmet SGT Charles H. Hawes LTC Wayne Brandon SGT (Join to see)
Of course now deceased POTUS JFK withdrew support for Diem in November 1963 in the same month he was assassinated. There is a bitter irony in President Ngo Dinh Diem and his brother being captured and killed in early November while JFK was killed on Friday, November 22, 1963.
Can you imagine the outcry if our leaders were summarily executed because they failed to keep significant campaign promises?
FYI COL Mikel J. Burroughs LTC Stephen C. Capt Seid Waddell Capt Tom Brown SFC William Farrell SSgt Robert Marx Maj Marty Hogan PO1 William "Chip" Nagel SPC Margaret Higgins SSG William Wall MSgt Jason McClish AN Christopher Crayne LTC Bill Koski Sgt Trevor Barrett SPC Tom DeSmet SGT Charles H. Hawes LTC Wayne Brandon SGT (Join to see)
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Ngô Đình Diệm was assassinated with the blessings of US Ambassador to Vietnam, Henry Cabot Lodge Jr., who had the power to get him out of the country and into exile - but who refused to do so.
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PO2 Richard C.
HCL had his own ideas about how things should go and wasn't bashful about doing whatever was necessary to see them through. Interesting individual
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