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The post is tagged wrong. It isn't a Republican or Democrat thing. It's a crazy vs insane thing.
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President Trump did not equivocate. He condemned those "all" who did violence. Are we back in the days of Bill Clinton when we have to define simple words like "is" and "all"? Sadly, the NYTimes is so deeply invested in the narrative against President Trump that they do need simple words defined. They can't bring themselves to accept that the Anti-Fa group that it flies cover for could be as guilty as the KKK, Neo-Nazis, and White Supremacists that they claim voted Trump into the White House. Yeah, right. Like those nut jobs could count on enough votes to elect a dog catcher.
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MAJ (Join to see)
Exactly, fascists are fascists whether they are neo-nazis or the ironically named Anti-Fa (who are definitely fascists)
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If the protesters that support the Confederate statue didn't have anyone doing the Nazi salute and making select statements that White lives are all that matters then yeah I can see your point there. If the Anti-Fascists would stop thrusting themselves into a peaceful protest with the intent of creating anarchy then I can see your point there also. The Alt-Right and Anti-Fa have turned every rally and protest into a battleground of deliberate violence. We saw a chance for leadership at the national level to respond and we received an incoherent, inconsistent, and uncaring message via Twitter then press conference instead.
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SGT Maria Q.
MAJ James Woods - Doesn't change the fact that the First Amendment protects several basic freedoms in the United States including freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, the right to assemble, and the right to petition the government. It was part of the Bill of Rights that was added to the Constitution on December 15, 1791. Thank you sir... :-)
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MAJ James Woods
Again all freedoms are protected except when it instigates, promotes and incites violent acts. Don't they still teach this stuff in school? Example: "I don't like...and I want him to fail." Protected speech; "I don't like...and I want him dead. We be better off if he was dead." Not Protected speech.
Bill of Rights is not a blanket CYA for everything. There are indeed exceptions. We can criticize government, we cannot threaten it. We can criticize a group of people, we cannot threaten them. Polygamy is an accepted in one extreme form of religion still practiced in our country, Bill of Rights should protect it or challenged?
Bill of Rights is not a blanket CYA for everything. There are indeed exceptions. We can criticize government, we cannot threaten it. We can criticize a group of people, we cannot threaten them. Polygamy is an accepted in one extreme form of religion still practiced in our country, Bill of Rights should protect it or challenged?
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SGT Maria Q.
MAJ James Woods - I agree that hate speech is not protected. A white supremacist walking around saying they are superior race and protesting the removal of statues does not violate anything. But people pelting them with rocks and mace for saying they are better is illegal. Like I say they were guilty on all sides but if the counter-protesters would have just let them be and just ignored them we wouldn't had that chaos and tragedy that happened and 3 people would still be here. I can care less who hates me or my latino people. As long as the law protects us as a whole I'm good. Those white supremacists didn't take anything from me by marching. They have rights too and the fact that they had helmets and body armor shows they were expecting people to attack them for their beliefs and came prepared just in case.
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MAJ James Woods
SGT Maria Q. - No. Not accurate. Hate speech is protected which is why a Neo Nazi or KKK or other recognized hate group are allowed to get permits. The rally just cannot intentionally instigate or incite violence. Saying "you don't like Jews" is protected speech. Counter protesters are in their right to stand across the street and chant "we don't like Nazis". It's those few instigators on both sides that we need to identify, condemn, and punish...you know the one's that threw the first rock or bottle. We have to separate the protesters on both sides from the instigators on both sides.
Remember the law protects both of us today cause we have people who stood up against the White supremacists 60 plus years ago and Americans will stand up to them again today.
Also the examples of people showing up in helmets and body armor in defense of statue represent the same groups that have shown up to peaceful protest as counter protesters. You don't show up to a peaceful rally ready to fight and call yourself a victim. Imagine MLK Jr. and the Civil Rights activists taking the same approach and they were indeed prepared to meet resistance and be beaten by police and counter protesters back then.
Remember the law protects both of us today cause we have people who stood up against the White supremacists 60 plus years ago and Americans will stand up to them again today.
Also the examples of people showing up in helmets and body armor in defense of statue represent the same groups that have shown up to peaceful protest as counter protesters. You don't show up to a peaceful rally ready to fight and call yourself a victim. Imagine MLK Jr. and the Civil Rights activists taking the same approach and they were indeed prepared to meet resistance and be beaten by police and counter protesters back then.
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