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I am sorry, but he got off way too easy. Now picture this scenario if the offender was a Master Sergeant...busted to Airman, a bad conduct (Dishonorable) discharge, Loss of ALL Benefits and a lovely multi-year stay in Hotel Leavenworth...A double standard...I don't care if he served honorably until MG his past glories do not exuse his present guilt...It seems that under UCMJ past performance does play a big part in determining the penalty phase...he should have been brought down to Colonel at the minimum, he is the one that is supposed to adhear to the standards and set the example, he didn't...I have heard and witnessed of other such instances of misconduct by senior leaders that got off with a slap. Some people in the House of Representatives have suggested that JAG (with the exception of deployed environments) be moved to the civilian courts...now that would be interesting to see...Grrrrrr!
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Maj Marty Hogan - Oh brother....glad I don't have to deal with that nonsense anymore...I always liked the way they took our 4 day weekends away when there was a DUI in our unit...didn't stop a darn thing...DUI's continued....Mandatory(in-class) Training gotta love it, with Death by PowerPoint...I remember spending many an hour catching up on training....Sexual Assualt Awareness, Suicide Awareness, Auto Inspections, HIPPA, EO & EEO, InfoSec, Patient Safety, Electrical Safety, Fire Safety, Weapons Safety, Joint Commission, Bodily Fluid and Sharps Protocols and on and on and on! Make it stop!
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Maj Marty Hogan
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MAJ (Join to see) - yep...no change still the same
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Maj Marty Hogan - his punishment basically amounts to a Field Grade Article 15...Reduction to MG from GEN, without the 60-day confinement or restriction or additional financial penalty...what a joke!
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Sir,
I tried to access the report and was unable to do so. What was the general actually accused of having done? Rape, groping, inappropriate comments, etc.? Was the MSG you referenced on active duty at the time or was he retired?
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The article has a sentence or two on it, but because the statute of li itations had passed, they couldn't go the UCMJ route, with all the punishment options avaialble. So given that, they used a provision of retirement law that says you retire at the last rank that an officer served satisfactorily. Since the events took place when he was a three and four star, they reduced his retirement to a two star. If it had happened while he was a two star, they could have made him a one star, etc. but technically it's not a punishment for a crime but rather an administrative determination of which rank he last successfully completed.
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Maj Marty Hogan
Maj Marty Hogan
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Saving grace for him. Remember that from SOS. Thanks for the reminder Col.
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Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth
Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth
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Thanks for the comments. Good points. I posted similar conversation before I read all the posts.
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Sir, If you aren't an attorney already you should be.
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Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth
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The reason he wasn't busted any harder is that the statute of limitations according the UCMJ is 5 years. He retired in 2010 and the individual he coerced didn't come forward with accusations till 2016. Therefore the only action the leadership could take was to admin demote him two stars. Which is a lot in retirement pay. Also by having this on his record, he will more than likely not be on the board of directors for various companies, will not be a consultant to Defense contractors, and probably will not be on the speaking circuit. He will be know as the Reprimanded General that can't control himself in those type of circles and that means a lot. I wish the statute of limitations had not run out...if it hadn't they could have busted him down with other punishments but unfortunately their hands were legally tied. He did get off way to easy in my book.
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